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All other things aside, if I hear someone say they do "lawn care", I'm going to assume that means they do mowing along with other stuff.

To me the base level of "lawn care" and "landscaping" are both mowing. I guess the real question would be, aside from a disclaimer, what would a good term for what you do that implies that you don't mow? Lawn Treatment? Lawn Chemical Services?


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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I'll confess being ignorant. If you asked me before this thread if I should expect a lawn care business to mow, I would say yes.
Well, then when you call me you probably wouldn't argue with me. Smile
 
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...what would a good term for what you do that implies that you don't mow? Lawn Treatment? Lawn Chemical Services?

Good point. Though that brings to mind that ChemLawn changed their name to "trugreen" to avoid "chemical" in their name.
 
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To me lawn care means anything that takes care of the lawn. Mowing, trimming, edging, applications of chemicals.
Landscaping means more like leveling, planting of grass seed/sod, trees, shrubs, ect.
Some services may include, or exclude any of the above mention items.

Kinda like a health care specialist doesn't include ALL aspects of health care.


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Just a few observations. One, you pay money for website and other advertising to get your phone to ring or receive inquires on your website if it is configured for that function. If you have all the customers you need or want, then maybe rethink your advertising.

Two, if you do want to attract new customers, then any contact is worthwhile. Even if the caller wants a service you don't provide, it offers an opportunity to tell them about the service you do provide. If this results in some discussion about what "lawn care is" so be it.

Three, it might be a good idea to team up with a cutting company that you know and trust, that you can refer these people to. Maybe get a small finders fee or maybe just refer them and perhaps the good will will come back to you in referrals the other way.

Four, I'm not a web advertising expert, but it seems to me you can construct your website etc to reflect "no cutting" with out saying the negative. Negatives except maybe in the fine print, tends to be a turn-off. You want things to be upbeat. Again, it all depends on how many new customers you want to attract.



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If a person fertilizes lawns are they providing lawn care?

Answer: Yes.

If a person mows lawns are they providing lawn care?
Answer: Also Yes.



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If a person fertilizes lawns are they providing lawn care?

Answer: Yes.
Great! I'll forward all the calls to you. Big Grin

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If a person mows lawns are they providing lawn care?
Answer: Also Yes.
Yes
 
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I'll go one further and suggest the *first* thing people think when they hear "lawn care" is "mowing".

I'm not giving Mark any shit for not mowing, do what you like, but the confusion seems obvious.
 
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You should include the words "health" and/ or "turf" imo. Lawn healthcare, turf healthcare, turf maintenance, etc. Is more descriptive of the business you're doing, imo.

A lawn is land on which grass grows. Turf is grass that is maintained and mowed. You're treating the turf not the lawn. Semantics, yes, but fertilizing and weed control is more about the health of the turf.

One of my close friends owns a business doing what you're doing and his website talks more if turf and health. https://verdureturf.com/



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Do I need to change the name of my business? Maybe something like “no mow services”.


Are you asking because you are serious or just pissed that you are getting these calls?

In any regard the answer might be YES.
You are defined by what your customers see or believe.
It is your marketing that is at fault here - not the customer calls.
It is up to you to differentiate yourself from mowers if that is what you want.
Additionally, you should relish the opportunity for new customers and use this in your favor, IMO.
Change your name, your slogan, your advertising ~ whatever it takes to get that across but not for fielding less mow calls but for more business.
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If it were me I'd partner up with a mower in your area and a referral deal.
He mows - you get paid and have the golden opportunity to fertilize or whatever else you do to the mow caller.
Capitalize on the opportunity.
 
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Do you know anyone who's business is mowing that will give you a referral finders fee for telling the caller you dont have time but you will have another company call them back who has availably to mow their lawn?

Since you have to answer the call just to find out what they want, you might as well get paid to give another company this sales lead???

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Are you asking because you are serious or just pissed that you are getting these calls?
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hmm, I’m not upset about anything. It’s the callers that attempt to argue. I just thank them for calling and considering me.
 
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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
You should include the words "health" and/ or "turf" imo. Lawn healthcare, turf healthcare, turf maintenance, etc. Is more descriptive of the business you're doing, imo.

A lawn is land on which grass grows. Turf is grass that is maintained and mowed. You're treating the turf not the lawn. Semantics, yes, but fertilizing and weed control is more about the health of the turf.

One of my close friends owns a business doing what you're doing and his website talks more if turf and health. https://verdureturf.com/
Turf care or turf maintenance sounds like a good change. Thank you.
 
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Ok, just to clear things up:

  • I run a lawn care business. I just don’t offer mowing. The $/hour isn’t as good as the other services.
  • I’m not saying mowing isn’t lawn care, of course it is.
  • I fertilize and control weeds, which is also lawn care.
  • I’m not angry about anything.
  • I’m kind to every caller and offer a free estimate for fertilizing.
  • I’m just wondering why all callers suddenly desire to argue about what service I should offer. I am thinking it’s because they’re in a jam after neglecting the lawn for six months and I’m quite literally the only business that answers the phone this time of year.
  • Every mowing company is booked right now, there’s no one that wants my referral. I’d probably have to pay them to take a lawn. Two weeks ago a friend pulled up to say hello and I jokingly asked if he wanted a mowing job and he rolled up his window and sped away. Big Grin That guy cracks me up every time.
 
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Around here , if you advertise " Lawn care " , people are going assume you mow . That's just the way it is . In fact , I don't know of anybody that only fertilizes , etc. except for the franchise guys like TruGreen .
 
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Around here , if you advertise " Lawn care " , people are going assume you mow . That's just the way it is . In fact , I don't know of anybody that only fertilizes , etc. except for the franchise guys like TruGreen .
Is not about assuming, I'm talking about people arguing with me. Seriously, if I say to you "you've reached a fertilizing company" would you argue with me or just thank me for my time and hang up?
 
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I'd suggest a name/slogan oriented at what you do do, something like "Lawn Growth Experts - Feeding and Weed Prevention since XXXX"
 
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Around here , if you advertise " Lawn care " , people are going assume you mow . That's just the way it is . In fact , I don't know of anybody that only fertilizes , etc. except for the franchise guys like TruGreen .
Is not about assuming, I'm talking about people arguing with me. Seriously, if I say to you "you've reached a fertilizing company" would you argue with me or just thank me for my time and hang up?
Well , you have identified the problem , now what are you going to do about it ? Unless you change your advertising , etc. , these same idiots are going to keep arguing and you're going to stay mad about it . If business is good , just move on .
 
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An MBA course may spend a week on naming a business. It can be fraught with peril, particularly if the company grows larger, with goodwill in the name already established, but then needs to reset the rudder, but the name is in the way. Try to name your business more creatively so that if you run into some success, you won't lose existing goodwill or your existing customer base and market share, because your name sucked. Google "goodwill accounting definition" to get a better idea.

But like others have said in this thread, whatever name you choose, don't forget to immediately identify, up front, what your services are. Some companies are bad with their websites or business cards. You go there, spend five minutes, and you still don't know the hell what they are selling. Like a very funny or entertaining television commercial, but after you're done laughing, you don't know what the hell the company was selling. Awareness is the first step in marketing 101. If potential customers don't become aware what you're offering, they'll give up and find another company who states is clearly and up front.

With the short attention span in people created by the internet these days, he who can be found quickly, who immediately and attractively identifies their services, and makes it easy to contact and engage those services, WINS. I have contractors I like who violate one or more of these principles on a regular basis, whom I just got lucky and found them because of their excellent service and honesty, but who knows how much business they may be losing, if they're interested in growing further.




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An MBA course may spend a week on naming a business. It can be fraught with peril, particularly if the company grows larger, with goodwill in the name already established, but then needs to reset the rudder, but the name is in the way. Try to name your business more creatively so that if you run into some success, you won't lose existing goodwill or your existing customer base and market share, because your name sucked. Google "goodwill accounting definition" to get a better idea.

But like others have said in this thread, whatever name you choose, don't forget to immediately identify, up front, what your services are. Some companies are bad with their websites or business cards. You go there, spend five minutes, and you still don't know the hell what they are selling. Like a very funny or entertaining television commercial, but after you're done laughing, you don't know what the hell the company was selling. Awareness is the first step in marketing 101. If potential customers don't become aware what you're offering, they'll give up and find another company who states is clearly and up front.

With the short attention span in people created by the internet these days, he who can be found quickly, who immediately and attractively identifies their services, and makes it easy to contact and engage those services, WINS. I have contractors I like who violate one or more of these principles on a regular basis, whom I just got lucky and found them because of their excellent service and honesty, but who knows how much business they may be losing, if they're interested in growing further.
Most excellent post. Thank you.
 
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