Former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard announces she’s leaving the Dems
Some are speculating (so they do not have to face the words she is actually saying) that she is has joined a cult and is being led astray by them. This is hypothesized as to why she has made crazy tweets and decisions lately.
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October 12, 2022, 02:12 PM
GT-40DOC
I read somewhere this morning that Tulsi is stumping for a repub. in the midterm elections. A good start!!
October 12, 2022, 02:19 PM
goose5
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Originally posted by IrishWind:
I hope our 'big tent party' is better with the welcome mats. Some of the posts in this thread show there is no room for anyone who is not part of the far right of the party, and moderate or liberal leaning Republicans are not welcome in the tent.
I've kinda gotten that vibe here too.
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October 12, 2022, 02:23 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by redstone: Some are speculating (so they do not have to face the words she is actually saying) that she is has joined a cult and is being led astray by them. This is hypothesized as to why she has made crazy tweets and decisions lately.
LOL. "Crazy tweets and decisions." Like calling out the ritual mutilation of children and condemning the democrat party. There is a clear headed person here, and it's not the person who thinks these things are crazy.
And by the way, ranked choice voting is for suckers. Just hell no.
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October 12, 2022, 02:37 PM
PASig
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Originally posted by redstone: Some are speculating (so they do not have to face the words she is actually saying) that she is has joined a cult and is being led astray by them. This is hypothesized as to why she has made crazy tweets and decisions lately.
Oh there's a cult alright and she just got away from it...
October 12, 2022, 02:41 PM
spunk639
For those of us that remember do you think Speaker “Tip” O’Neill would be a Democrat today with this party?
I’d say no.
October 12, 2022, 02:46 PM
corsair
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Originally posted by darthfuster: Clearly, Tulsi is transitioning. Some people need more time and experience than others. Dave Rubin did it in a couple of years. Tulsi needs to accept and assimilate more information and principles to fully move into the light. This first step is a big one. If she is supported by conservatives with convincing respectful discussion, she could become an ardent ally for righteousness.
What's that saying, 'a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged'
I've got several friends who were quite liberal in their younger days, definitely apart of the free-shit crowd. They got older, paid taxes and raised a family...they're rather conservative these days. Certainly sounds like Tulsi, after leaving Hawaii, spent some time in uniform and after wadding into the deep waters of national politics, had a realization that who she was political aligned with, doesn't jive any more.
I have no doubt that there's many, many others who were staunch Obama voters, and over the last 8-years, are now taking a hard re-evlatuation of their political compass headings.
October 12, 2022, 03:34 PM
2BobTanner
Yes, Tulsi’s comments and recent actions can and should be questioned to see if she really means it.
But just remember this quote, “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”― Ronald Reagan
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October 12, 2022, 03:52 PM
Pipe Smoker
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Originally posted by 2BobTanner: Yes, Tulsi’s comments and recent actions can and should be questioned to see if she really means it.
But just remember this quote, “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”― Ronald Reagan
Excellent!
Don’t argue with fools.
October 12, 2022, 03:53 PM
12131
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Originally posted by sjtill: When it came to the Second Amendment, she said it was to defend ourselves and protect us against tyranny; she cited the Bruen decision. It was all well done and very articulate.
See, the problem with this catchy statement of hers is that, she can still have her past position of "sensible gun control" (reinstating the federal AWB, banning hi-cap mags, requiring UBC, closing the gun-show loophole) , but at the same time claims right to self defense and defense against tyranny.
Tulsi has a consistent record of advocating for sensible gun control. She has long called for reinstating a federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, requiring comprehensive pre-purchase background checks, closing the gun-show loophole, and making sure that terrorists are not allowed to buy guns. Tulsi has an F-rating from the NRA, a 0% rating by the Hawaii Rifle Association, and a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She is focused on building bipartisan solutions that can actually be passed into law, rather than using the issue as a partisan political football.
Someone should ask her directly, "Tulsi, have you now changed your positions on these specific topics?" "Are you now against reinstating the AWB and against the ban of hi capacity magazines?", and see how she squirms. If she completely turns around, then I'll eat crow.
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October 12, 2022, 04:27 PM
mod29
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Originally posted by darthfuster: ...For perspective, consider what it would take for you to leave your political party...
It wouldn't take much, considering my allegiance isn't to a political party. My allegiance is to this country, its constitution and bill of rights.
October 13, 2022, 07:35 AM
cas
Reminds me of "I'm leaving California and moving to your state."
(and bringing some of my BS with me, intentional or not)
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But just remember this quote, “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”― Ronald Reagan
Not Apples to Oranges. The Democrat party he left would be called Right Wing by the media today.
October 13, 2022, 09:03 AM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by 12131: Someone should ask her directly, "Tulsi, have you now changed your positions on these specific topics?" "Are you now against reinstating the AWB and against the ban of hi capacity magazines?", and see how she squirms. If she completely turns around, then I'll eat crow.
If she ever did actually support an AWB, it was "more in the breach than the observance." From the article I linked, earlier:
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So it was surprising when Amber Tamblyn, a Hollywood actress who has become a leading voice in the Time’s Up movement, called out the congresswoman on Twitter for not signing on to an assault weapons ban supported by most of her Democratic colleagues and for taking campaign money from gun interests.
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On Feb. 26, U.S. Rep. David Cicilline, of Rhode Island, introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018 in response to the Parkland shooting. The bill had 164 original co-sponsors, all of them Democrats, including Hawaii Congresswoman Colleen Hanabusa, who is running for governor.
Gabbard was not among the group, which included nearly 85 percent of all Democrats in the House. Congressional records show she added her name to the bill March 1, the day after Tamblyn’s public chiding went out to her nearly 100,000 followers.
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She’s been slow to sign on to a number of gun control measures that have received widespread support among her Democratic Party colleagues. Sometimes she’s just a no-show.
That was the case in 2015 when Cicilline first introduced his assault weapons ban. The bill had 149 cosponsors, including late Hawaii Rep. Mark Takai, who, like Gabbard, served in the Hawaii Army National Guard. Gabbard never added her name to the bill.
Point being: She's apparently been lukewarm on gun control, at worst. Hell, we've had Republicans that have been more anti-gun than her.
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October 13, 2022, 09:54 AM
TMats
I thought Gabbard announced that she was leaving the Democrat Party, not that she was running for public office as a Republican. What’s with all the litmus tests?
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October 13, 2022, 10:13 AM
SIGnified
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Originally posted by TMats: I thought Gabbard announced that she was leaving the Democrat Party, not that she was running for public office as a Republican. What’s with all the litmus tests?
“Come on man! That’s how the sewing circle works.”
Or in other words…
“Bitches be trippin’ brudda …” lol
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October 13, 2022, 10:18 AM
PASig
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Originally posted by TMats: I thought Gabbard announced that she was leaving the Democrat Party, not that she was running for public office as a Republican. What’s with all the litmus tests?
It's crazy, isn't it?
October 13, 2022, 10:54 AM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by TMats: I thought Gabbard announced that she was leaving the Democrat Party, not that she was running for public office as a Republican. What’s with all the litmus tests?
For many people there is no option other than being either a Republican or Democrat. So, in Tulsi's case, if she's not going to be a Democrat anymore, she must want to be a Republican, therefor is subject to Purity Evaluation.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
October 13, 2022, 11:09 AM
chellim1
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Originally posted by TMats: I thought Gabbard announced that she was leaving the Democrat Party, not that she was running for public office as a Republican. What’s with all the litmus tests?
Exactly. This is a good thing. More Dems should follow suit.
BUT, just to stir the pot a bit... There is already rampant speculation that this is step 1 to being chosen by DJT as a running mate. We shall see.
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October 13, 2022, 11:35 AM
erj_pilot
Would seem Rob Schneider has jumped on the Tulsi Gabbard train...
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October 13, 2022, 11:52 AM
HayesGreener
She is a military officer, a former MP, a shooter, and has spoken openly about the folly of the liberal party, which puts her far above the trustworthy quotient of 90% of career congress critters in my book. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt and hoping she will do good things. I have heard you Tulsi, not let's see what you do.
, but at the same time claims right to self defense and defense against tyranny.
