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I read nothing about using hybrid engines in the article. That interpretation is too crazy even for whoever is pushing EVs. They’re pushing EVs to get away from fossil fuel engines. Running small gas engines to power the grid seems way too inefficient; might as well have cars line up at the power plant and get their gas tanks siphoned to fuel the power plant as that would be more efficient per gallon of gasoline. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| My other Sig is a Steyr.  |
Fixed it for you. Hey Mary, Goodwill called. They want their G back as long as it doesn't still look like an elephant.  | |||
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Think I'm gonna go into business selling some big ass diodes in California. "The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people." "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy." "I did," said Ford, "it is." "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?" "It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want." "You mean they actually vote for the lizards." "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in." | |||
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You might make more $$$$ selling big ass dildos to California.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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| wishing we were congress |
The answer is incredibly obvious. Lay out a plan to rely on multiple energy sources such as some combination of fossil fuel, coal, natural gas, nuclear, solar and wind having enough reliable energy is critical to our country and well being. The people rushing to EV cars, and solar/wind energy sources, remind me of Stockton Rush. Hard headed, foolish and eager to take on risk. The best design approaches are not the least expensive or the highest performance. The best designs balance risk by increasing the probability that at the end of the day, you have a system that delivers the needed product. | |||
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Stupid runs rampant in California government. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
Just when you thought you'd seen the stupidest idea ever.............. This is AOC level stupid. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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They are NOT at all interested in what is best for everyone's well being . Save the planet , appease the tree huggers , fleece the taxpayers . THAT'S what they care about . | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
"Save the planet" is just the cover story. That's how they sell their tyranny. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| What is the soup du jour? |
I watched a video of a guy that was able to run his refrigerating appliances, stove, and home lights from his car battery as an experiment. He did so to ascertain it's usefulness during short term power outages, due to weather. He reckoned he could get a solid week from his car, if he had to stay home, waiting for the power to return. While interesting, I couldn't help but think it might be foolish to use energy from your potentially only form of transportation during an emergency. However, if you are a multi car household, it might make sense. The idea of consistently allowing the grid to pull from your vehicle during peak hours to supplement power is absolutely detestable. Just another excuse to not revamp commie'fornia's current infrastructure failings. My paranoid mind's rant below: I can also see how presenting this idea NOW, to get the conversation started. The designed to desensitize people to the idea until bi-directional power becomes mandatory. 1st, it's an idea. Then it's subsidized. Then it's mandatory. Your power company will log if your car is never plugged in during peak hours and citations will be issued, or your vehicle will be remotely locked. That oughta get people motivated for 15-minute cities. | |||
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For the most part , yes . There are some that actually believe that nonsense though . I didn't want to leave them out ... | |||
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| half-genius, half-wit |
This idea was posited by the folks who brought you the self-lifting bucket. Simply stand in it, and haul up on the handle... | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Wait until they find out that one EV can charge another. (if provisioned) . | |||
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What a ridiculous idea. It sounds like an electrical Ponzi scheme. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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The problem with greenies is very simple. They want a scorched earth, unconditional, no prisoners full out win. The fact that their version of life is not possible impacts them exactly zero. A solid approach like described above, hybrids instead of EV, clean diesels, diesel hybrids, etc could work. They don’t care. They want the straight W. Anything else is failure to them. This idea is so retarded it doesn’t even deserve the discussion we are having. This is a nonsensical idea. | |||
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| I swear I had something for this |
I would say that the problem is that it is possible, but it requires an near mass extinction event for humanity for it to happen. | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
After just having gone through the second power outage in as many months here in Western NC we are seriously considering a Tesla solar system with 2 Poweralls. I can tell you right now that if some of this BS came my way I would tell them that they would have to pay me at least $2.00/kW (over 10x what I pay) to make it worth my while to consider it and since I’m the generator it will be a take it or leave it proposition, not some system to subsidize the years of mismanagement. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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But it would be paid with Taxpayer dollars. IE robbing (you) to pay (you). | |||
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