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Motorcycle guys - what is the equivalent of a UJM now?

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May 08, 2017, 04:32 PM
jhe888
Motorcycle guys - what is the equivalent of a UJM now?
Stickman428's thread about the Kawasaki KZ 750 prompts this question. I had a Honda CB360 in the '70s, and it was small, but still fun.

What is out there now that is similar to a UJM?

I see Honda has an 1100 that is a direct nod to Honda UJMs of the '70s. And Yamaha seems to have a 900 in the same vein. Triumph, too.

What else is out there? I don't mean only bikes that have throwback styling, but what is out there that is meant for the same uses - general riding, including a generally upright riding position I would include engines in the 700 range and up. But still usable around town.

Some models may favor one use over the other (i.e., more sporty, or more cruiser) but motorcycles that are mostly generalists are the ones I am curious about.

And which ones do people seem to think pull it off the best?




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May 08, 2017, 04:38 PM
stickman428
Suzuki went back to a more UJM upright style with the newest SV650.

Kawasaki has the naked Z bikes but they are more sportbike oriented. You already mentioned the Yamaha XSR900 (which is gorgeous!).

I'll be interested in the responses.


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May 08, 2017, 04:44 PM
bigwagon
Yamaha FZ09
May 08, 2017, 05:01 PM
stickman428
Maybe the FZ-07, Bolt C-spec, SCR950 or SR400? Yamaha's "Sport Heratige" line is pretty neat. If that SR400 had a larger displacement sibling it would capture the classic UJM spirit perfectly IMO. That baby is kickstart only! The SR400 hasn't sold well so I don't see Yamaha making a slightly larger version but who knows. Yamaha has been making pretty neat stuff lately.


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May 08, 2017, 05:08 PM
46and2
Not very J, but similarly intended, is the Guzzi V7 or the newer Bonnevilles/Scramblers or Ducati's 800cc Scrambler
May 08, 2017, 05:23 PM
PHPaul
I'm noticing a lot of "sport" bikes that have UJM features and riding position with modern "styling".

I love my FJ-09, it's the most comfortable bike, in terms of riding position, that I've ever ridden.

I could certainly do without the "Transformer" styling tho.

Smaller bikes are coming back too, witness the Kasawki, Honda and Yamaha offerings in the 300cc street bike category.

The dual purpose offerings are all very retro-looking as well.




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May 08, 2017, 05:32 PM
vthoky
How about Honda's CB1100?






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May 08, 2017, 05:54 PM
FenderBender
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Originally posted by vthoky:
How about Honda's CB1100?



that's a big engine for a new rider, but definitely has the look.


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May 08, 2017, 06:09 PM
stickman428
jhe888, The SR400 would be a pretty close modern equivalent to your old CB360. The small bikes are some of the most fun to ride.




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May 08, 2017, 08:43 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
How about Honda's CB1100?



that's a big engine for a new rider, but definitely has the look.


Apologies. I must have missed the part about a new rider. An 1100 would scare the crap out of me, and I've been riding for a while. I surely wouldn't put a new rider on top of that engine!




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May 08, 2017, 08:52 PM
46and2
the OP isn't a new rider, though I believe it's been a while...
May 08, 2017, 09:06 PM
wolfe 21
I am looking at a supermoto for mostly the reasons mentioned. Standard upright riding position, inexpensive (relatively), modern brakes and suspension without really awkward styling. Fun around town bikes.
I do like that yamaha posted above, though. May have to look into that. And I really like the kick only aspect.


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May 08, 2017, 09:15 PM
FenderBender
quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
How about Honda's CB1100?



that's a big engine for a new rider, but definitely has the look.


Apologies. I must have missed the part about a new rider. An 1100 would scare the crap out of me, and I've been riding for a while. I surely wouldn't put a new rider on top of that engine!


no need to apologize, it just seems to me that the UJM's of olde were an entry into the world of motorcycles, that Honda is more for long time riders who are feeling nostalgic, also its 12 grand. Big Grin


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May 08, 2017, 09:42 PM
hrcjon
Suzuki sv650. really nothing better overall.


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May 08, 2017, 10:11 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
How about Honda's CB1100?



that's a big engine for a new rider, but definitely has the look.
Well if 1100 is too big, you can go to the other extreme the Van Van 200 from Suzuki:
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Pr...V200/2017/RV200.aspx

or the TU250X:
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Pr...50X/2017/TU250X.aspx


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May 08, 2017, 10:34 PM
hudr
It's more on the adventure end of things in styling, but I really like my Honda NC700x. It was relatively inexpensive, has an upright seating position, and the torquey parallel twin gets really good fuel mileage (I've seen 70mpg on a couple long trips). But it still handles pretty good in the twisties.
And (IMO) it could be turned into a "poor man's" Africa Twin with some mods...

My HD 1200 Roadster is also pretty comfy, even with it's more aggressive riding stance. But I can tell it is right at 100 lbs heavier than the Honda.
May 08, 2017, 10:43 PM
stickman428
Wolfe 21, The SR400 is fuel injected and kick start. You can get a blast of retro kick start awesomeness without the pain of dealing with a carb. I've not seen one near me for a good price...if I did I'd probably own one.


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May 08, 2017, 11:02 PM
Voshterkoff
quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
that Honda is more for long time riders who are feeling nostalgic, also its 12 grand. Big Grin


Plenty new old stock units. My local dealer has one listed for $7,800. If I could cram one into the garage I would get it and a black coated 4 into 1 yosh pipe.
May 08, 2017, 11:56 PM
FenderBender
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
It's more on the adventure end of things in styling, but I really like my Honda NC700x. It was relatively inexpensive, has an upright seating position, and the torquey parallel twin gets really good fuel mileage (I've seen 70mpg on a couple long trips). But it still handles pretty good in the twisties.
And (IMO) it could be turned into a "poor man's" Africa Twin with some mods...



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May 09, 2017, 12:36 AM
James in Denver
I have no idea about the UJM, but I had to comment on this thread because of the CB360.

That was my first BIKE! Had loads of fun tromping around my hometown on it. It was my dad's hand-me-down bike. He bought a CB750K and let me have the CB360.

Fond memories. Had better bikes, but wow, brings back the memories... Smile

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