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They can legislate and picket and protest all they want, but human nature is human nature.
People will buy the cheapest thing regardless of consequence.
If that consequence is small local stores can't compete and go away, well, we are seeing that everywhere.


You are misinformed or rather inaccurate.
Everything is not about PRICE.
However, it is true the market will sort it out if left alone.
Cheap shit can sell but it is not the only thing that matters.
It is about competing and price is only one factor.



It is to the people cheap stores market to. Were it not so, Walmart would not be as huge as it is while selling disposable garbage from China.


smschulz, you are the one being inaccurate. You are talking general market, DTS is serving a market segment. Stupid people for the most part, or taking advantage of people living paycheck to paycheck. They only care about the price they pay at that moment, not the cost of what they are buying.

I had an ex that would shop there, I showed her the unit costs of a couple of things she buys. Her answer was always I can go there and get what I need for really cheap, she didn't care how expensive it was in the long run or that she'd have to but more XYZ a week later, because whatever package she bought was one ounce above a sample size.

There are a ton of people who only care about the cheapest price and nothing else. Why do you think people get trampled on black Friday to get some shitty ass TV marked down to $300? Price is a strong motivator, may not be the only one, but to a large segment it is the only one.



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I showed her the unit costs of a couple of things she buys.

Even regular groceries play games with this stuff.
Look at two similar items, just different brands, sitting next to each other on the shelf. You look at the unit price on the tag to compare, it's almost a given that they're using different units. Unless you 're good at converting in your head, it can be quite frustrating.




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smschulz, you are the one being inaccurate. You are talking general market, DTS is serving a market segment. Stupid people for the most part, or taking advantage of people living paycheck to paycheck. They only care about the price they pay at that moment, not the cost of what they are buying.

I had an ex that would shop there, I showed her the unit costs of a couple of things she buys. Her answer was always I can go there and get what I need for really cheap, she didn't care how expensive it was in the long run or that she'd have to but more XYZ a week later, because whatever package she bought was one ounce above a sample size.

There are a ton of people who only care about the cheapest price and nothing else. Why do you think people get trampled on black Friday to get some shitty ass TV marked down to $300? Price is a strong motivator, may not be the only one, but to a large segment it is the only one.


I never said PRICE is not a factor, I said it is not the ONLY one.
I am not inaccurate.
 
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To a good amount, price is the only concern or the largest factor in purchasing decisions. To DTS shoppers price would be much more important than to general population.



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Largest factor, maybe, but travel time (or even the time it takes to deviate from someone's normal commuting route) play a huge role as well. That's why its at least vaguely credible that dollar stores would saturate an area to prevent grocery stores from opening up there.
 
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They are all over the place here. Generally more in the poorer areas of town. Best price on cans of Freon and real cheap basic cleaning supplies. Seem to attract plenty of sketchy people. They seem to have been a recent target for armed robbery as well. Lots of folks coming and going on foot and beatup bicycles.

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Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.

Right, Skins?
 
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Our two “dollar stores” are the only places in Jerkwater where a person can buy bath towels, pillows, men’s XL undershorts, and numerous other niceties for modern life. Dollar stores are what we have in the niche that would be served by Walmart, if we were lucky enough to have one. We haven’t had a “mom and pop” store carrying those items here for 30+ years. Long before dollar stores were invented.

I’d bet that most of the people who oppose Walmart and dollar stores don’t seek out mom and pop boutiques to purchase their socks and underwear from.

Local legend has it that misguided city government do-gooders long ago (like those legislating against dollar stores) are why we don’t have a Walmart here. And why we drive about 140 miles round trip to shop at the nearest one.
 
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I buy milk at Dollar General as it is about 2.00 a gallon cheaper than Publix. Everything zsmichael says is true. I sit in the car while my wife shops. People watching is fun. I have seen an amazing variety of prison shoes walking in and out.


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They are all over the place here. Generally more in the poorer areas of town. Best price on cans of Freon and real cheap basic cleaning supplies. Seem to attract plenty of sketchy people. They seem to have been a recent target for armed robbery as well. Lots of folks coming and going on foot and beatup bicycles.
 
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Our two “dollar stores” are the only places in Jerkwater where a person can buy bath towels, pillows, men’s XL undershorts, and numerous other niceties for modern life. Dollar stores are what we have in the niche that would be served by Walmart, if we were lucky enough to have one. We haven’t had a “mom and pop” store carrying those items here for 30+ years. Long before dollar stores were invented.

I’d bet that most of the people who oppose Walmart and dollar stores don’t seek out mom and pop boutiques to purchase their socks and underwear from.

Local legend has it that misguided city government do-gooders long ago (like those legislating against dollar stores) are why we don’t have a Walmart here. And why we drive about 140 miles round trip to shop at the nearest one.


Holy cow, where in the world is Jerkwater? There is probably 50+ of them within 140mi of me.




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Little Bulls Gap, TN (the kind of town Hee Haw would do a "salute" to, one traffic signal) has a Family Dollar and Dollar General less than a quarter mile apart. I do buy toiletries and laundry detergent from the dollar store, but food only occasionally.
 
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“Jerkwater” is the county seat of the largest county in Texas. It’s about 20 miles east of Marfa.

 
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The hope of this legislation is that limiting dollar stores will allow "real" grocery stores to compete. Apparently dollar stores tend to crowd out traditional small grocery stores in poor neighborhoods.....


Economics 101. Supply and Demand. There is a reason Fresh Market does not build stores in low income areas, there is no DEMAND for them. Conversely, there is a demand for "cheap" stores.

You also dont see a lot of Popeyes Fried Chicken's in high income areas. Here is where the government gets it wrong, and they used the same logic with the War on Drugs. The flawed thought that controlling supply will somehow trigger demand. That is not how it works. No matter how many buggy whips the Government produces it will never create a demand.
 
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