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Baroque Bloke
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I found his account to be very interesting. A good shoot. In fact, three good shoots.

“…The red dot was on him. I fired shots and there was no immediate reaction. I carried on firing until I had to deal with the third threat of Youssef Zaghba who was on top of me…”

https://mol.im/a/7213635



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I found his account to be very interesting. A good shoot. In fact, three good shoots.

“…The red dot was on him. I fired shots and there was no immediate reaction. I carried on firing until I had to deal with the third threat of Youssef Zaghba who was on top of me…”

https://mol.im/a/7213635


A medal for that police officer, please.
 
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I especially liked that he recognized the threat of the injured terrorist possibly having thoughts of detonating the suicide vest and removing that particular threat with a head shot. Well done indeed.




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I especially liked that he recognized the threat of the injured terrorist possibly having thoughts of detonating the suicide vest and removing that particular threat with a head shot or three. Well done indeed.


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Calling this officer a "rookie", just because it was his first incident? No doubt this guy was a police officer for years before being assigned to the armed response unit. That they'd describe him in this manner suggests that he was lucky to handle the situation as competently as he did, when its clearly not the case.

Funny how knife attacks are looked at in the UK as the threat that they are, but here in the US, cops are being told that "less lethal" attempts to deal with similarly armed suspects should be required before the use of firearms.


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Calling this officer a "rookie", just because it was his first incident? No doubt this guy was a police officer for years before being assigned to the armed response unit. That they'd describe him in this manner suggests that he was lucky to handle the situation as competently as he did, when its clearly not the case.

Funny how knife attacks are looked at in the UK as the threat that they are, but here in the US, cops are being told that "less lethal" attempts to deal with similarly armed suspects should be required before the use of firearms.


As I wrote in the other post on this subject, we were taught to treat anyone threatening you with a knife at ten feet or less as an instant target. It takes less than a second to cross that ten feet and unzip you from crotch to throat, even if the attacker is dying as he does it.
 
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Funny how knife attacks are looked at in the UK as the threat that they are, but here in the US, cops are being told that "less lethal" attempts to deal with similarly armed suspects should be required before the use of firearms.

I don't know what LE is told on how to handle but I would assume the distance makes a difference.
A knife at 20 yards is not the same threat as a gun.
Both are lethal for sure.

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As I wrote in the other post on this subject, we were taught to treat anyone threatening you with a knife at ten feet or less as an instant target. It takes less than a second to cross that ten feet and unzip you from crotch to throat, even if the attacker is dying as he does it.


Even ten feet is way too close.
Twenty one feet is considered a minimum here.
 
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A knife a t 20 yards is not the same threat as a gun.

Only in the sense that it cannot fire projectiles at you; but you are correct in saying both are lethal.

The suggestion that cops try and deal with deadly weapons such as knives with non-deadly options is a more recent invention by piece of shit leftists that have never been threatened with any kind of weapon. They know what they know from movies and other idiots that the real world operates as they feel it should, not as it actually does.

Knives are dangerous enough in the hands of an inept boob. In the hands of someone trained in their usage, they are just as deadly as a gun. I will NEVER submit to such stupidity as meeting deadly force with lesser force. That way lies the boneyard. The day my agency mandated that I do would be the day I look for another source of employment.




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Funny how knife attacks are looked at in the UK as the threat that they are, but here in the US, cops are being told that "less lethal" attempts to deal with similarly armed suspects should be required before the use of firearms.


Here is a video where a cop is lucky, IMO, to be alive. He didn't treat the knife threat with the seriousness it deserved during the entire incident. The attacker appeared to me to want suicide by cop and was going to do whatever it took to get there.


https://youtu.be/Uy5E_cmeVVE


Moving backward, while engaging a threat, seems to a dangerous tactic. Falling while moving backward occurred with the officer in the op and in the clip above the officer was at disadvantage. Both were put in an even more dangerous position. Both were lucky.



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Funny how knife attacks are looked at in the UK as the threat that they are, but here in the US, cops are being told that "less lethal" attempts to deal with similarly armed suspects should be required before the use of firearms.


Here is a video where a cop is lucky, IMO, to be alive. He didn't treat the knife threat with the seriousness it deserved during the entire incident. The attacker appeared to me to want suicide by cop and was going to do whatever it took to get there.


https://youtu.be/Uy5E_cmeVVE


Moving backward, while engaging a threat, seems to a dangerous tactic. Falling while moving backward occurred with the officer in the op and in the clip above the officer was at disadvantage. Both were put in an even more dangerous position. Both were lucky.


I did see this video and its appalling. Retreating as this cop did not only endangered him, but exposed others to dangers as they took their issue from "Point A" to "Point B"! There's absolutely no reason to flee, when its your job to DEAL with the threat.


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