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This is from 2021. Can't say they weren't warned. French generals cause backlash with 'civil war' warning https://www.france24.com/en/li...th-civil-war-warning The French government has threatened to punish active soldiers who signed an open letter by 25 retired generals warning President Emmanuel Macron the country is headed for "civil war". A number of serving defence force members are believed to have signed the letter published last week in the right-wing Valeurs Actuelles magazine, which warned that "laxist" policies would result in chaos requiring "the intervention of our comrades on active duty in a perilous mission of protection of our civilizational values". "The hour is grave, France is in peril," the retired generals wrote, adding that failure to act against the "suburban hordes" -- a reference to residents of the mainly immigrant areas that ring French cities -- and other unnamed groups who "scorn our country" will lead to "civil war" and deaths "in the thousands". The government and left-wing parties strongly condemned the letter, which was published on the 60th anniversary of a failed coup d'etat by generals opposed to France granting independence to Algeria. It was not immediately clear from the list how many of the signatories, apart from the former generals, had retired from the defence forces and how many were still active members. Defence Minister Florence Parly warned Monday that those still serving would be punished for flouting a law requiring them to remain politically neutral. But she also appeared anxious to avoid giving too much importance to their outburst, assuring that the "immense majority" of French troops remained neutral and loyal. Political analyst Jean-Yves Camus also downplayed the significance of the letter, telling AFP the signatories were "no heavyweights" in the army. - 'Battle of France' - The letter comes as candidates begin jockeying for position on immigration, security and the spread of radical Islam in the run-up to the 2022 presidential election. An Ifop poll published in the Journal du Dimanche newspaper on Sunday showed security and the fight against terrorism among voters' top priorities after a new wave of jihadist attacks, including the October 2020 beheading of a schoolteacher who showed his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, whom polls show likely to face off against Emmanuel Macron next year in a re-run of the 2017 race, told the retired generals she shared their sentiments and invited them to back her campaign. "I invite you to join us in taking part in the coming battle, which is the battle of France," she wrote in a response to the letter published in Valeurs Actuelles. Le Pen was widely criticized by her opponents on both the left and the right for her overtures to the soldiers behind what the left-wing daily Liberation described as a "call to sedition". On Tuesday, she told France Info that while she shared the soldiers' diagnosis of a country afflicted by "lawless areas, crime, self-hatred and our leaders' rejection of patriotism" she agreed that "these problems can only be solved by politics." - Murdered teacher - The public foray by the generals, most of whom are close to far-right circles according to France Info, comes in the midst of a heated debate in France about racism and colonialism led by young, non-white French activists. The generals accused them of whipping up "hatred between communities" with their rhetoric and support for tearing down statues of French figures from colonial times. Macron, who was elected on a centrist manifesto in 2017 but is seen by critics as moving to the right, has slammed what he calls "social science theories imported from the United States", saying that they harm French unity. The generals also accused "Islamism and the suburban hordes" of turning parts of the country into no-go areas where French values were no longer upheld. "Who could have imagined 10 years ago that a teacher would one day be beheaded on leaving school," they wrote referring to the murder of Samuel Paty by a radicalised Chechen immigrant, a crime that caused deep shock in France. While extremely rare, this is not the first time that former military top brass have criticised the running of the country. A popular former head of the armed forces who quit after a spat with Macron in 2017, General Pierre de Villiers, has been cited as a possible presidential candidate after publishing a book on "repairing France." The lead signatory of the letter in Valeurs Actuelles, Christian Piquemal, is a former Foreign Legion commander who was arrested for taking part in an anti-migrant demonstration in 2016. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Maybe I’m too cynical, but my suspicion is that the Muslim Ayatollahs are directing the rioting. And the Ayatollahs won’t end it until they get a sufficiently big pay out, in one form or another, from the French government. Serious about crackers | |||
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I belive Hungary and Poland were the only EU countries that would not allow that invasion into their countries. I Bet France ain't cracking any Polish jokes now! _________________________ | |||
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‘You morons!’ Tour de France riders furious after nail attack on the road causes mass punctures Race radio announced a series of punctures from around 20km to the finish line https://www.independent.co.uk/...ncture-b2368140.html _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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^^^^^^ Most likely that's not a consequence of the riots. Tacks thrown on the race course has happened before, though it is rare. It's a juvenile prank. The race is still in the Basque Country. Though I guess the Northern Basque Country is partly in France. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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That happens in the US. Pouring oil on sections of the roadways to reduce traction is something else that’s done, and that can cause serious injuries. Sometimes it’s evidently due to resentments about how the crowds and disruptions of traffic annoy certain locals. My high altitude rural town is becoming more and more popular for foot and bicycle races during the summer and the actions and attitudes of some of the racers, support teams, and spectators lead to opposition to the events. Other times, though, attempting to disrupt the events may just be something to do. And of course, the more such incidents occur and are publicized, the more they attract copycats. ► 6.4/93.6 “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy | |||
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https://velo.outsideonline.com...-on-road-in-stage-2/ Protestors have always use the Tour as a platform for whatever their cause or outrage is. I think every year there's some headline grabbing activity that affects the race. This year's race might be xtra-spicy given the events last week, how active Just No Oil has been regardless of event, and the overall mood in teh country. | |||
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So a crown-funding collection has been taken up for both the policeman and the teen who fled the scene. Use the English translate feature Nahel's death: the money pot in support of the police officer exceeds one million euros and is considered "compliant" by the platform that hosts him
Interesting to see how this government official has no compunction in throwing the officer 'under the bus' and declaring monetary donations towards his legal case to be abhorrent. I guess not everyone there is guaranteed a fair trail, free from pre-trail influence. | |||
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Someone aught to ask Macron, “Hey, Mac, how’s that assimilation process going?” Serious about crackers | |||
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When you say “This Government”, which one are you referring to? The French Government or the American? Being a Cop has been a pretty unpopular job the past couple of years or so. Just a pawn in the game. Easily sacrificed. Here, and there. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Not much different than the South and West Side “Rev-er-runds” and their storefront churches, along with “Community Leaders” here. Bitch, moan, loot, riot until they get what they want (through violence and looting or Governments trying to appease the masses), then lather, rinse and repeat when the next one happens. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Fundraiser for officer who shot Nahel outstrips donations to victim's family A campaign to raise money for the family of the policeman who shot dead French teenager Nahel M. topped 1.47 million euros ($1.6 million) on Tuesday, far outstripping donations to Nahel's family and causing shame and anger among many French people. https://www.france24.com/en/eu...s-to-victim-s-family The fallout from the shooting, and from the wave of rioting it triggered in France's poor suburbs, continued to dominate political debate, with Prime Minister Elisabeth Borne advocating in parliament a crackdown on young rioters and their parents. President Emmanuel Macron hosted a three-and-a-half-hour meeting with 302 mayors of towns where rioting took place, described as "cathartic" by one of the participants, and told them violence was subsiding. "Will the return to calm last? I would be prudent, but the peak that we experienced these past few days is over," Macron was quoted as saying. Macron told the mayors his government would introduce an emergency law aimed at making it easier to rebuild burnt and damaged buildings and infrastructure by cutting red tape. Earlier, the head of France's main employers' organisation estimated that the cost of repairing the damage caused by the riots would surpass 1 billion euros, citing 200 looted shops and the vandalisation of 300 bank branches and 250 tobacconists. French news bulletins focused heavily on the issue of the competing crowdfunding campaigns for Nahel and the police officer, a subject that drew vitriolic reactions from people, laying bare the profound polarisation of French society. The fundraising effort on behalf of the officer, who is in custody charged with voluntary homicide, was launched on the GoFundMe platform by far-right media personality Jean Messiha, who received more than 72,000 private donations. Leftwing politicians branded the fundraiser as shameful and called for it to be shut down, while the far-right defended a police force it says is a daily target for violence in the low-income suburbs that ring French cities. "This police officer is the victim of a national witch-hunt and it is a disgrace," Messiha tweeted. Fundraising pledges for the family of Nahel stood at 352,000 euros. More at link _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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The French government, a person from the presidential office, Eric Bothorel. I suppose in these times, such pointed criticism from the executive office regarding police activity shouldn't be surprising. After all, it wasn't too long ago in 2009 when Obama referred to a Cambridge LEO's action 'acted stupidly' re: his friend Henry Louis Gates, then had a 'beer summit' to smooth things over Now we've got a White House Press Secretary that likes to deal in hyperbole and exaggeration. Everything I've come across is, LEO's in Europe are social pariahs, tight-lipped about their jobs socially, living in neighborhoods that are isolated or, separate from many to prevent neighbors from IDing you, not wearing any LE paraphernalia. The last decade-plus, Leftists in the US have worked over-time to create the same environment and social opinions, in many ways they've succeeded. Academics talking down about the work, young people believing wearing the badge & uniform automatically makes one the most grotesque of human, flippant remarks from visible figures are becoming more common. | |||
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The French government rolls out the red carpet for barbarians to invade and destroy their country and now this: French Cops Can Now Secretly Activate Phone Cameras, Microphones And GPS To Spy On Citizens Oh, yes, they need a warrant. Uh huh I'd say that at this point, France deserves whatever it gets. | |||
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^^^^^^ Another Revolution, perhaps? Roll out the guillotines? If those that love Freedom and Liberty want it to continue, they had better come up with something. And FAST... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Yes, perhaps. Imagine the head of any police union in the US using this language to refer to the BLM rioters or George Floyd rioters. ******************************* Unions representing half of French police on Friday said they were at war with "vermin" in nights of rioting over an officer's shooting of a teenager during a traffic stop. "Today police officers are at the front line because we are at war," the Alliance Police Nationale and UNSA Police unions said in a statement echoing far-right turns of phrase. "Faced with these savage hordes, it's no longer enough to call for calm, it must be imposed, " they added. "Now is not the time for industrial action but for fighting against these 'vermin', " the union statement released soon after said. https://www.barrons.com/news/f...ters-vermin-f10740ea ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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They're barbarians. Savages. Primitives. They shit all over any place they live and then they wallow in it. They like it, because they don't know any better- literally, they do not know any better. Either the French want to keep their country, or they do not. There is no in-between. If they want to keep it, they will have to cease behaving as if it's wrong for them to want to preserve the culture they've been so proud of for centuries. They will have to cease with the absolute bullshit PC language. They will have to cease allowing themselves to be buggered by animals. And if they need more evidence that all of this is true, they're going to get it every day, all they can handle and then some. The sooner they come to the realization that their country is being destroyed before their very eyes, the better off they will be, because there will come a point that the French people will become hostages in a stinking outhouse that used to be their country, and then nothing will save them. It's the truth | |||
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I think the Czechs told them to kind sand, as well. Yak-Se-Mas “I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.” -J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers. | |||
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Nothing a wiff of grapeshot hasn't solved before. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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