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ATF preparing to regulate private gun sales with background check, whistleblower group alleges

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January 31, 2024, 08:55 AM
wcb6092
ATF preparing to regulate private gun sales with background check, whistleblower group alleges
https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

The whistleblower group that represented the IRS agents in the Hunter Biden case is warning that the Biden administration is preparing an “unconstitutional“ power grab to regulate private gun sales by requiring a background check.

In a letter Wednesday to Attorney General Merrick Garland, Empower Oversight said it had learned from two sources that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was directed by the White House to make the change and “has drafted a 1,300-page document in support of a rule that would effectively ban private sales of firearms from one citizen to another by requiring background checks for every sale.”

Empower Oversight said it believes that only Congress can make such a change because a 1986 law it passed explicitly forbade background checks for gun sales between private individuals.

“Such an expansive rule that treats all private citizens the same as federal firearms licensees would circumvent the separation of powers in the Constitution, which grants ‘all legislative Powers’ to Congress while requiring that the President ‘take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.’

“To the extent such a rule prevents the private sale of firearms, it would also clearly violate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which declares that ‘the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,’” it added.

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2024-01-31 TL to DOJ-ATF (private sale ban)_Redacted.pdf

Empower Oversight said the rule could also lead to clashes between ATF agents and private citizens, citing two violent tragedies from the 1990s that began with federal raids.

President Joe Biden last March signed an executive order requiring the federal government to “clarify the definition of who is engaged in the business of dealing in firearms, and thus required to become Federal firearms licensees in order to increase compliance with the Federal background check requirement for firearm sales.”

Biden admitted his goal was to “move us as close as we can to universal background checks.”

ATF subsequently submitted a proposed rulemaking that raised alarm among Second Amendment advocates that the administration was seeking to require any private citizen who sells even a single firearm online to register as an FFL.

Empower Oversight noted that legislation passed by Congress in 1986 made clear that the “business” of selling firearms “shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.”

The whistleblower group requested that the Justice Department and ATF release under the Freedom of Information Act all records and communications related to “this unconstitutional measure,” including contacts with the Biden White House.

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January 31, 2024, 09:03 AM
greco
More overreach.




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January 31, 2024, 09:04 AM
darthfuster
Private guns sales are the so called gun show loophole. They know that background checks are de facto registration. Private sales are the only way to transfer firearms without that registration. If we let them do what they want, gun registration will be with us until we fight them for freedom. That fight is rarely done through the courts when they are as corrupt as they have become.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 31, 2024, 09:04 AM
220-9er
Just for purely political reasons, I can't imagine them doing this right now.
Looks like a clickbait headline to me.


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January 31, 2024, 09:05 AM
nhtagmember
how are they ever going to know?

fuck 'em with a cactus
January 31, 2024, 09:06 AM
ridewv
This just reeks of obama......


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January 31, 2024, 09:08 AM
ridewv
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
how are they ever going to know?



Under penalty $100,000+ fine and 5 years in prison should bring most of us under compliance. Of course it won't affect criminals one whit.


No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
January 31, 2024, 09:30 AM
cas
Now when I'm trading crack for guns I'm going to have to do paperwork!?!
January 31, 2024, 10:05 AM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
how are they ever going to know?



Under penalty $100,000+ fine and 5 years in prison should bring most of us under compliance. Of course it won't affect criminals one whit.



Ummmm NO, the ATF cannot make laws. Mad
January 31, 2024, 10:15 AM
monoblok
Copying the same invasive strategy that Iron Curtain states like WA already does...except it's (unfortunately) law here, not there in the confines of BATFE.


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January 31, 2024, 11:13 AM
Fly-Sig
This looks to me like election year grandstanding. We all know there is no way such a rule will stand up in court. We all know it is unenforceable until every existing firearm is inventoried by fedgov, and we know that is never going to pass legal muster either.

Just like abortion, immigration, equity, and other buzzwords are leveraged for votes.