Not defending Musk, not saying the company is a good investment (though if it keeps falling, it might be worth a flutter...)

But I got my car on Thursday - the folks were very nice, the whole experience was vastly better than a normal dealership, and holy smokes this thing is a car...

Too much weight to really be "toss able", but very comfortable, and really does handle quite well. Brakes, and goes, like nothing I've driven since the Viper. (And, on paper, the Tesla is faster than my old 4th gen Viper.)

I suspect these are/can be autocross monsters - the weight makes the driver really have to work, to keep it under control, but it has the tires and brakes to do so.

Please keep your thread updated on how it’s going, we have gotten really close to making a decision on a M3 or a MS but used. Right now we are holding off until Tesla settles down some more. We love the technology and features of Tesla’s cars.

With few charging stations here in rural MT we see few Tesla's. Did notice that there IS a charging station at the Starbucks in Helena. How appropriate.

Yes. Do keep us informed on how it's working for You.

electric motors are the future of cars.

Congrats! I plan to take a look at them when my Hellcat lease runs out. There is nothing like that electric torque.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

Why?

(Disclaimer: I own an electric car)

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

I can absolutely 100% guarantee gasoline will be out in less than 20 years.

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

Why?

(Disclaimer: I own an electric car)

Lower costs, better performance, and better reliability. The work on battery capacity marches on; that remains the downfall for the time being, however we'll solve that soon enough.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

I can absolutely 100% guarantee gasoline will be out in less than 20 years.

I'll take that bet. You're saying there will be zero gas fueled cars by 2039?

If there are no fossil fueled cars in 20 years, it is only because cars are banned in 20'years.

I did some analysis to see what the economics of a Tesla m3 would be but stopped cold when I called my insurance agent. Holy moly they wanted a lot to insure that car.

But the operating cost of electric is a really compelling story. So on a whim we decided to test drive a Chevy Bolt EV. My wife and I were both shocked how much we liked it. It’s not a luxury car but it made a good impression. Made the deal yesterday and we pick ours up tomorrow.

The efficiency of an electric is what sold us on it. We expect to save $2100 per year in energy costs for the daily driving my wife does.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

Why?

(Disclaimer: I own an electric car)

Lower costs, better performance, and better reliability. The work on battery capacity marches on; that remains the downfall for the time being, however we'll solve that soon enough.

How does 100% torque at ZERO RPM's sound?

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

I can absolutely 100% guarantee gasoline will be out in less than 20 years.

I'll take that bet. You're saying there will be zero gas fueled cars by 2039?

new sold ones, absolutely.

Volvo has already gone 100% hybrid. All other manufacturers are working on something similar.

I'm with bender on this.

Holy thread drift Batman.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

I can absolutely 100% guarantee gasoline will be out in less than 20 years.

I'll take that bet. You're saying there will be zero gas fueled cars by 2039?

new sold ones, absolutely.

Not going to happen. Infrastructure isn't there and will not be there. It's more than charging stations and better batteries. What happens when everyone comes home and plugs in there car. Right now there are parts of the country that have their electrical grid stressed on hot summer days in the evenings when people return from work and crank down the AC. Add everyone plugging in their car.

How do you deal with apartments and condos where people don't have a garage/carport to park and plug their car into.

Add in the resistance from elected officials who state depends on jobs that support fossil fuel.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by fwbulldog:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
electric motors are the future of cars.

That's a somewhat silly statement. No one knows what the 'future' of cars is.

I can absolutely 100% guarantee gasoline will be out in less than 20 years.

I'll take that bet. You're saying there will be zero gas fueled cars by 2039?

new sold ones, absolutely.

Complete fantasy.

As I understand it, the European manufacturers are moving to electric because of the diesel disaster and EU mandates, just as Germany, for example, is ditching their nuke plants and pumping solar and wind for political reasons (climate hysteria).
If petroleum disappears as a fuel source, it will most likely be due to political pressure rather than technical or economic causes.

Imagine the size of the world's strip mines for rare-earth metals if we must continue with existing battery tech.

I'd love to see all electric propulsion IF there is an efficient method to store electricity, but that's always the rub. It would also be really cool if there were a way to retrofit an existing vehicle with an electric option. Think classic cars with an electric power plant, as heretical as that sounds.