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CCW Guidance - MO via TX through OK & KS

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August 19, 2021, 04:22 PM
P250UA5
CCW Guidance - MO via TX through OK & KS
Heading to MO for a wedding on Labor Day weekend.
Anything in particular to know about MO CCW law?

We're driving up from the Houston area, so passing through Oklahoma & Kansas, so particulars on OK & KS as well would be great form the locals.

Thanks




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August 19, 2021, 04:45 PM
BOATTRASH1
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Great website. Constantly updated and easy to use. I use it whenever my wife and I travel multistate.
August 19, 2021, 04:57 PM
SigM4
Lived in MO for four years, travelled back home to TX a lot in that time. Anymore all four of these states are very similar. Only thing to be aware of might be some of the rest stops in OK on Indian reservations.



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August 19, 2021, 04:58 PM
Jimineer
Don’t speed in Oklahoma though.
It’s not like Texas is.
August 19, 2021, 05:31 PM
a1abdj
Missouri is Constitutional Carry now, but has always honored out of state permits.

Stay clear of the basic prohibitions that are the same in most states: bars, churches, stadiums, police stations, etc.


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August 19, 2021, 07:18 PM
P250UA5
Thanks gents.

I briefly looked at the reciprocity, but didn't dig deeper.




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August 19, 2021, 07:21 PM
sig77
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
Missouri is Constitutional Carry now, but has always honored out of state permits.

Stay clear of the basic prohibitions that are the same in most states: bars, churches, stadiums, police stations, etc.


+1 we are constitutional carry, so do what you typically do and you will be fine.



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August 19, 2021, 11:24 PM
enidpd804
OK is constitutional carry and has always honored other state's licenses. There is no duty to notify unless the officer asks.





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August 20, 2021, 07:12 AM
mrvmax
I have done the same in the past and Ok, Ark and Mo are all fine. I suggest going to each state website and reading the penal code for yourself, especially to see where carrying is forbidden. There are sites listed that summarize but I like to verify myself. USCCA and the NRA have "cheat sheets" with the info.
August 20, 2021, 08:27 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
Missouri is Constitutional Carry now, but has always honored out of state permits.

Stay clear of the basic prohibitions that are the same in most states: bars, churches, stadiums, police stations, etc.

Yep.

Thread drift: As for churches... it's up to the church but for me personally, concealed means concealed. There's no place I feel more vulnerable than church. It's easy for a couple of people to block the exits.



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August 20, 2021, 11:27 AM
dan03833
When I travel thru states I like to call the state police and ask for information. I also make note of the day, date and time of the call l as well as name of person I spoke with.
August 20, 2021, 01:31 PM
mrvmax
quote:
Originally posted by dan03833:
When I travel thru states I like to call the state police and ask for information. I also make note of the day, date and time of the call l as well as name of person I spoke with.

I could be wrong but I doubt that will help. So let's suppose Sgt Highway patrol tells you that it's legal to do something so you do. It turns out he was incorrect and you get busted. Will using his name help any? Will they let you go knowing you claim Sgt Highway patrol told you you can do it?

Maybe the Sigforum attorneys can chime in. I'd rather read it myself and I print it out to have with me. I guess I've run across LE officers that did not know all the carry laws so I look it up myself.
August 20, 2021, 06:01 PM
Opus Dei
quote:
Originally posted by mrvmax:
quote:
Originally posted by dan03833:
When I travel thru states I like to call the state police and ask for information. I also make note of the day, date and time of the call l as well as name of person I spoke with.

I could be wrong but I doubt that will help. So let's suppose Sgt Highway patrol tells you that it's legal to do something so you do. It turns out he was incorrect and you get busted. Will using his name help any? Will they let you go knowing you claim Sgt Highway patrol told you you can do it?

Maybe the Sigforum attorneys can chime in. I'd rather read it myself and I print it out to have with me. I guess I've run across LE officers that did not know all the carry laws so I look it up myself.
Truth. My brother bought a trailer some distance from his home. Driving back on IH-10, he was flagged to go into a weigh station. The license & weight trooper told him he was a hot shot driver, and my brother said he wasn't. He pointed to the ID number on the fender of his truck and said that was his DOT number, therefore he was a commercial operator. My brother told him that was his master electrician license number, and the trooper didn't believe him and wrote a ticket for whatever-which was immediately dismissed by the judge. So yeah, no knock on LE in general, but there are some enforcing nonexistent laws.
August 20, 2021, 11:16 PM
enidpd804
quote:
Originally posted by dan03833:
When I travel thru states I like to call the state police and ask for information. I also make note of the day, date and time of the call l as well as name of person I spoke with.


Don't take legal advice from a cop. I say that 'cause I R 1.





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August 21, 2021, 06:11 AM
DaBigBR
I put a lot of stock in handgunlaw.us. It includes code sections to guide your research. The owner is a member here.
August 21, 2021, 07:50 AM
mrvmax
Let me be clear, I'm not disparaging police or their knowledge, I'm just thinking that claiming one gave you legal advice is not going to help you if it is was wrong. That's why I read the law myself and print it out.
August 21, 2021, 08:37 AM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by mrvmax:
Let me be clear, I'm not disparaging police or their knowledge, I'm just thinking that claiming one gave you legal advice is not going to help you if it is was wrong. That's why I read the law myself and print it out.


It's no knock - everyone knows the Po Po doesn't always know what the law is.
I would still vet any opinions on law advice from them as is is an opinion but somewhat educated.
Just be respectful and it will be eventually fixed later in court or elsewhere.
No one is perfect.
September 04, 2021, 06:30 PM
P250UA5
I'm assuming casinos are a no go for CCW?
Seems a 'Captain Obvious' question, I suppose.




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September 04, 2021, 08:06 PM
skonie
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
I'm assuming casinos are a no go for CCW?
Seems a 'Captain Obvious' question, I suppose.

Their house, their rules, but concealed means concealed. In Nevada their signs don't carry any weight...(yet). If they ask you to leave, you must, or you'll be trespassed.
September 04, 2021, 08:14 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by skonie:
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
I'm assuming casinos are a no go for CCW?
Seems a 'Captain Obvious' question, I suppose.

Their house, their rules, but concealed means concealed. In Nevada their signs don't carry any weight...(yet). If they ask you to leave, you must, or you'll be trespassed.


Locked it up in the car, just to be safe.




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