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"I had some friends, very close friends of mine...guys who came home in wheelchairs, and then, I didn't go," the singer told Tom Hanks at Tribeca Film Festival event Friday, "I was a stone-cold draft dodger." Springsteen explained he pulled "everything in the draft-dodger's text book." "So, perhaps, I felt guilty about that later on. I had friends who went. I had friends who went and died. I had friends later on who were seriously hurt," he continued. He decided he needed to "come to terms with myself" and sing about what he had done. Much of the conversation between Hanks and Springsteen were based on stories from the singer's recent memoir, "Born to Run." He discussed the tough times at the start of his career when he was broke and playing gigs wherever he could. He and his bandmates never paid taxes and avoided bills for years so when they hit it big, they spent years paying off debts and attorney fees. LINK _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | ||
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"Born to Run" - Yep. | |||
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I'm not a fan of his music and I'm really not a fan of him. Sounds like a true hero hiding away from fighting for his country and later avoiding paying taxes. | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Never like him or his music from the beginning. | |||
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Made from a different mold |
Never a fan of his. Shitty music by a shitty person. There are very few celebrities that I feel are actually worth a damn, and this just proves it further! ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I grew up on Springsteen. The first time I ever kissed a girl, Springsteen was on the radio. I had a drag race in Hgh School. An honest-to-God drag race, over a girl. I won, blew his ass off the road. Springsteen was on the radio. That was a long time ago, and Springsteeen, had he remained merely a performer, would still be in my heart, but no more. In one of the Elvis documentaries, a reporter asks Elvis about the Vietnam War. With the most kind and innocent look on his face, Elvis responded to the question with "I'm just a singer." That was the end of that. He had it right. All other entertainers who came after him have gotten it wrong. We don't care about your Goddamned political opinions. Just shut up and sing or act or whatever the Hell it is people pay to see you do. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
I had not heard that story. Glad you thought off it. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Go to the 4:30 mark. He actually says "I'm just an entertainer" after being asked about the draft. Later in the same press conference (10:15 mark), he's asked about the "Women's Liberation Movement" (this is 1972), and once again begs off of giving an opinion. These days, the egotistical assholes who pass for entertainers think their personal opinions are so important, they should be the law of the land. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Sounds like Springsteen is a perfect mate for Jane Fonda!!! | |||
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Not surprising for a guy who just said he was embarrassed to be an American when he was in Australia. http://www.vulture.com/2017/02...ml?mid=twitter_nymag “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
I haven't listened to the entire press conference, only about 4 minutes of it--about military service and the draft. It struck me that I can't remember ever hearing Presley just answering questions like this. I was struck by what a polite, gentleman he was. He had been a star for what...16 years by then. He seemed gracious, humble, and still surprised at his star power--even at that stage of his career. Remarkable _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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So...he's like Nugent, except he doesn't pretend to be patriotic now? (Yes, I know Nuge now says he was lying about that story. He's a liar one way or the other.) | |||
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Well, at least I have that in common with him. I'm embarrassed that he's an American too.
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Born to shirk. Fuck him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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Eschew Obfuscation |
I was once a huge Springsteen fan. Had all his records, listened to his music non-stop, saw him in concert several times, etc. But, like many other celebrities, he came to the conclusion that being popular somehow entitled him to share his *enlightened* opinions - constantly. I soon got sick of his bloviating. I stopped buying his albums and soon stopped listening to his music entirely. _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Believe it or not, Bob Dylan had a similar attitude, even though he was pigeonholed as a protest singer and called The Voice of A Generation (a label he despised), as this clip demonstrates. In another clip, he is "answering" a stupid question from a reporter. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Shut the hell up and sing. We don't pay to hear you think. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
He's giant tax-dodging fraud and hypocrite too. I've never been a fan of his music and think all his songs basically sound the same to me. Bruce Springsteen: A tax-dodging farmer | |||
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Knows too little about too much |
Yeah, that makes everything alright. Keep telling yourself that dim/socialist. I agree with Para, at one time Springsteen was a good entertainer. No longer. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
When his number came up, Elvis took a step forward, too, got his haircut, did what he was ordered to do, AFAIK, without a whimper. It astonished everyone. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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