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To go or not to go - Neighborhood meeting
May 24, 2023, 02:47 PM
HRKTo go or not to go - Neighborhood meeting
quote:
Originally posted by Fredward:
General, cable for this purpose, when on private property, does not involve lots of digging. In my neighborhood, they used a lawn edger, set to about 6 inches, to dig a slot for the cable, less than a half inch wide. They tucked the cable into it and neatly covered it with dirt. I threw some seed over it the next morning, and in less than a month you couldn't tell it had happened.
FO is a bit different, at least down here, they ran a conduit first, large orange pipe to the boxes, which the guys from South Central America dug holes by hand. The conduit was pulled through with a machine, shook the ground, then the FO through the conduit, box to box.
Here's the conduit sticking out next to the box after they hit a city water line that wasn't properly marked, in fact it wasn't even on any blueprints or maps at the city.
Flooded the yard for over a month with the contractor saying they did nothing, and the city saying there isn't anything there until we got it dug down and a 25 foot geyser was spewing city water into the air.
The black cable is the old phone/cable company line they pulled up as well..
No comprende' senior...
May 24, 2023, 02:57 PM
selogicIn all of my years working for utility companies I can tell you there is no limit to the stupidity and ignorance you will experience . Some people just refuse to see anything other than their own way , and some will get really hostile about it . Having the Sheriff there is probably not a bad idea just to keep some folks civil .
May 24, 2023, 03:00 PM
sleepla8er.
There are several rules to a happy life that my Dad taught me ~ one being, Don't talk to the crazies!!!
Your crazy neighbors will never let this go. By all means, go to the meeting and defend your property and the services you want or don't want. There is no reason to defend the County, they pay people to do that.
Friends of mine in the outskirts of Atlanta had to fight a group of neighbors that tried to form a Homeowner's Association because they wanted to force everyone to pay to buy a vacant home, tear it down, and build a dog park. Because that group had the local city council member on board, it almost went thru before others found out and worked with those that didn't have dogs or the desire to be forced into a HOA to stop it.
Go to the meeting and defend your property and the services you want or don't want - Just don't talk to the crazies!!!
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May 24, 2023, 03:25 PM
redstoneThanks guys, I appreciate the advise.
Yes they buried/pulled that orange pipe in a loop through the whole neighborhood. A few times they had to dig it due to bolders and rocks, but mostly they used the horizontal drilling machine to bury it.
When they run it to the house it is just folded into the ground I had a hard time even seeing where they buried it coming from the street.
The complaining seems to be the initial install in January, some were really bent out of shape about it. I am genuinely curious what they will be saying. The few neighbors who have talked to me seem to just be curious about when they could sign up.
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson May 24, 2023, 03:32 PM
patwWhat's more amazing to me is how did those people survive this long? It amazes me at how long idiocy can live.
May 24, 2023, 03:48 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by BB61:
quote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:
You actually might be impactful here. If not addressed you could ask a simple question.
"Several neighbors have expressed concerns about acces/easements and how installations will impact their property. Can you speak to how you assure that you will minimize damage and assure things are put back as close to 'as were' as possible during install?"
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Really good advice. It's non confrontational. I would add "impact the utility easement" and have them define a "utility."
Great advice on asking a non-confrontational leading question.
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. May 24, 2023, 03:53 PM
old rugged crossThey are running that fiber optic shit all over here too and have no desire for it myself
"Practice like you want to play in the game"
May 24, 2023, 04:05 PM
PrefontaineI would go and defend, fuck the haters. I just bought 5 acres in a rural area and the biggest point for me buying it was fiber at the curb. I do not like the LEC at all, but fiber is a requirement of mine for work, and for non-work. Symmetrical bandwidth cannot be understated. ISP service is like kwh, or H2O, another required utility for living life. They need to just quit with the Karen bullshit.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
May 24, 2023, 04:33 PM
YellowJacketI'm having a tough time really following what is going on here. The conduit and fiber is already in. Did they do that work without getting permission or an easement from the property owners? Or are the boxes and FO all in rights of way?
Basically everything architect posted...
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log. May 24, 2023, 04:48 PM
PASigAround here they just string it on the poles that carry electric, telephone and cable.
May 24, 2023, 04:58 PM
vthokyquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Shentel ??? Sounds like a Fifties musical group. Weird name.
Shenandoah Telecommunications --> Shentel.
God bless America. May 24, 2023, 07:46 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
LEC
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים May 25, 2023, 12:13 AM
Some Shotquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
LEC
Local Exchange Carrier (used to be local phone company).
May 25, 2023, 08:17 AM
BlackmoreIn for the AAR
Harshest Dream, Reality
May 25, 2023, 02:20 PM
220-9erWhy would you not go?
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Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible.
May 25, 2023, 02:22 PM
ZSMICHAELquote:
Shenandoah Telecommunications --> Shentel.
^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks. Beyond my scope of knowledge.
May 25, 2023, 02:30 PM
ZSMICHAELquote:
Why would you not go?
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have been to many meetings in my life. Now that I am self employed I can send my regrets. Unless there is an agenda there is no point. I understand easments and utility companies.
May 25, 2023, 03:24 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Shentel ??? Sounds like a Fifties musical group. Weird name.
Shenandoah Telecommunications --> Shentel.
Well that's a relief because I thought from the name it was one of these Chicom telecom companies trying to set up shop like they've been doing around the world.
May 25, 2023, 04:15 PM
radiomanI thought the big dream for true 5G is it would replace the need for new fiber.
At least that's what they told us when 5G was being rolled out.
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May 25, 2023, 10:18 PM
redstonequote:
Originally posted by YellowJacket:
I'm having a tough time really following what is going on here. The conduit and fiber is already in. Did they do that work without getting permission or an easement from the property owners? Or are the boxes and FO all in rights of way?
Basically everything architect posted...
They installed the conduit and the fiber back in January. Some were pissed and want compensation for damage done. The affected areas were seeded and the boxes are flush. Nearly a zero evidence they ever were here. But some really are worked up over it. One lady is running for counsel. They want change.
They really didn't seem to know what a utility easement was. But hey there was free pizza and beer so it was all good
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson