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While not violating any rules, this is another example of the Chi-Comms giving the middle-finger to international norms, along with a not so veiled subtle move towards Australia and New Zealand that there's a new player in the region, what'chu gonna do about it...? attitude. New Zealand's long-time anti-military position and its Leftist government continues to get exposed as being impotent to the threats that grow and persist.

China’s Sudden Live Fire Naval Drills Off Australia Rattle Canberra
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Arare Chinese naval drill with a previously unannounced live-fire component has disrupted air traffic over and around the Tasman Sea between Australia and New Zealand. Authorities in Australia say they only learned that the Chinese ships would be firing some of their weapons after the crews of commercial airliners flying overhead received alerts. In addition to the signals this particular incident sends, the general presence of the flotilla in the region underscores the increasing reach of a steadily larger and more capable People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) beyond China’s own shores.

The PLAN’s Type 055 destroyer Zunyi, Type 054A frigate Hengyang, and Type 903 replenishment ship Weishanhu have been sailing south in international waters to the east of Australia since at least last week. Often referred to as a cruiser given its size, the Type 055 is one of the most modern and capable warships in Chinese service today. Elements of the Australian and New Zealand armed forces, including warships and P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol planes, have been shadowing their movements.

“We weren’t notified by China, we became aware of the issue during the course of the day,” Australian Defense Minister Richard Marles said while speaking to ABC Radio Perth earlier today. “What China did was put out a notification that it was intending to engage in live fire, and by that I mean a broadcast that was picked up by airlines, literally commercial planes that were flying across the Tasman.”

“I can understand why this was probably … very disconcerting for the airlines,” Marles added, stressing that Australia typically gives 12 to 24 hours notice ahead of live-fire exercises.

Based on information in alerts shared via the international Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS), the Chinese drills occurred in an area roughly 400 miles (340 nautical miles) to the southeast of the Australian city of Sydney. An Emirates flight heading from Sydney in Australia to New Zealand’s Christchurch was reportedly directly hailed by the Chinese flotilla warning the aircraft to stay at least 19 nautical miles away from where they were operating. Qantas and Air New Zealand have now made changes to the routes their planes take over and around the Tasman Sea, and other airlines have reportedly done the same. Civilian aviation authorities in Australia have now issued formal “advice” regarding air traffic around where the Chinese ships are operating.
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Both countries are liberal socialist countries which have essentially disarmed their civilian populace, encouraged immigration, and have less than stellar navies (remember the NZ naval vessel with a female captain which sank off Samoa?). China probably senses an opportunity.
 
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Their waters, their problem.
 
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Tired of the Chinese and Russian provocation bullshit.



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Appreciate the above sentiments. All true.

Meanwhile, we've had war declared upon us. Mexico has gifted us with (no telling how many of) their messycan career criminals (drug cartels) who are turning us into a shambles.

They want war. Let's give them war. Fix America and let everybody else deal with their own mess.
 
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It’s a game strategy done by companies, also. They see the Taiwan strait as their own similar to a medical device company Y “owning” a hospital that they’re the main supplier of versus company Z which services a different hospital. Normal times, each company services their respective hospital and doesn’t try to poach the other company’s hospital. But to reinforce that idea, one of the company’s may try to do a small promotion with the other company’s hospital. This is telling the other company to not try anything with their company because they could likewise mess with the other company’s customer.

China is saying if ever they make a play for Taiwan which they see as their own, the U.S. better not step in as China can tie them up in Australia and New Zealand. What China will do in the area is not to put the same amount of resources as with Taiwan but enough to force the U.S. to fight two fronts. The U.S., Australia, and New Zealand have a security treaty that was signed in 1951. China is signaling that they are ready militarily.

China has already been flexing their muscles against the Philippines which has a mutual defense treaty with the US and has had minimal reaction from the US. NZ and Australia are a lot farther from China than the Philippines.



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Australia has several US bases on their soil.

China just wants to see what Trump will do. They are butthurt over the sanctions.


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China has already been flexing their muscles against the Philippines which has a mutual defense treaty with the US and has had minimal reaction from the US. NZ and Australia are a lot farther from China than the Philippines.

Aus is pouring more funds into their military but, not fast enough and they can barely man the ships they do have. NZ pretty much let their military wither-away under their far-Left government; what's left is a handful of search & rescue units which are more coast guard efforts than anything else. Surprised they still have an SAS unit, good dudes but, woefully under-resourced and poorly supported. NZ is an easy mark to get intimidated and pushed aside; China will harvest out their entire fishing grounds.

China is strutting around the Pacific, looking to intimidate and push around non-US nations.

Over in the Atlantic, the Chinese fishing fleet is once again intruding on Argentina's area. Last time this happened, the Argies sunk a fishing boat.

Argentina Deploys Military As China Leads Fishing Swarm Near Waters
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Argentina is carrying out naval patrols in a warning to the hundreds of foreign fishing vessels lingering just beyond the nation's maritime zone.

Newsweek reached out to Argentina's Defense Ministry and China's Foreign Ministry by email with requests for comment.

With local fish stocks dwindling, China's distant-water fishing fleet—by far the world's largest—has rapidly expanded in recent decades and, by 2020, numbered around 17,000 vessels, according to the London-based Overseas Development Institute; this figure is widely considered a low estimate given the common practice of operating under foreign flags.

These vessels are frequently accused of illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing and depleting marine resources in developing nations like Argentina, home to the world's second-largest squid fishery. Beijing has rejected these criticisms, claiming it enforces the world's strictest oversight of its distant-water fishing fleet.

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