“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.

http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/...-removed-1/442782537

HAMPTON, GA -- A Civil War museum is closing after a Henry County commissioner told museum staff they needed to remove Confederate artifacts from the museum site.

Commissioner Dee Clemmons "requested" removal of a Confederate flag from a pole mounted outside the Nash Farm Battlefield Museum, said county spokeswoman Melissa Robinson.

Tim Knight of the nonprofit that runs the museum said Clemmons "demanded" the removal. He said museum officials assumed she spoke with the authority of the county government. However, Robinson said Clemmons' request was personal and not official.

The site of the August 1864 battle is now a county park. The museum is on county property. A nonprofit opened the museum in a historic building about five years ago.

The museum was set up to give equal weight to both sides of the story of the American Civil War. "Nash Farms has always represented both sides of the conflict," said Stuart Carter, a resident and supporter of the museum.

Inside the museum, there are portraits of generals who fought for the north and the south at the 1864 battle. Outside, there are three flagpoles. One is empty. Until a few weeks ago, the empty pole displayed a confederate flag with a white field and a St. Andrew's Cross battle flag in the upper left corner.

"One of our commissioners (Clemmons) asked for it to be removed and the request was granted," Robinson said.

Knight says Commissioner Clemmons returned a few weeks later and insisted on the removal of other Confederate artifacts inside the museum as well. Once again, Knight said it appeared the commissioner was speaking on behalf of county government.

"The commissioner had received some complaints and concerns from constituents," Robinson said.

But the nonprofit running the museum announced this week it would remove all its artifacts and close the museum.

Critics say Henry County overreached by squeezing the Confederate symbols out of a Civil War museum site.

"Sure I understand some people find the imaging of (the Confederacy) offensive," Carter said. "But if we try and erase it from history, then we can’t remember how we messed up and why we shouldn't go back there again."

Carter points out that many critics of public displays of the Confederate flag make exceptions for museum displays.

Asked if it was reasonable to remove selected historic artifacts from a museum depicting history, Robinson said: "I think it’s reasonable. I think there were plenty of artifacts in the museum that can tell the story of the Civil War. And I think it was a reasonable request."

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Commissioner Dee Clemmons

Her government information page for Henry County

http://www.co.henry.ga.us/Gove...t2-Commissioner.aspx

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Commissioner Dee Clemmons

Her government information page for Henry County

http://www.co.henry.ga.us/Gove...t2-Commissioner.aspx

This is how a politician describes dropping out of law school:

"Dee earned her Bachelor’s degree from Spelman College and decided to change course from attending law school to pursuing a career in education."

Same mind set as ISIS, when they destroy ancient sites and artifacts, only the left does not have the control ISIS does. Yet.

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Originally posted by Palm:

This is how a politician describes dropping out of law school:

"Dee earned her Bachelor’s degree from Spelman College and decided to change course from attending law school to pursuing a career in education."

Sounds to me like she couldn't get accepted into law school, so she took the path of least resistance.

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Dee earned her Bachelor’s degree from Spelman College and decided to change course from attending law school to pursuing a career in education.

Well, bless her heart.

My house was about a mile from there and I used to go to the reenactments they had. It was really nice and no bias was shown to either side. Really glad I sold my house and got the hell out of there.

Ah, shitsky.

Never surrender. Never.



Why give up our history and heritage to the racists?

Go back there and open up the museum right in Commissioner Dee Clemmons ' racist, Commie face.

A heartfelt and sincere FUCK YOU.

If you've got any fragments of your balls left, Tim Knight and the nonprofit that runs the museum.

"Who controls the past, controls the future," Orwell said of totalitarian regimes.

What is happening to our history is a national disgrace. And it is at the hands of those who would be totalitarians, if they could.

Whoever owns/runs the museum should pack up all there shit and re-open in the nearest Red county, and include a new exhibit on Democrats Erasing History in the South, featuring Henry County and Commissioner Dip Shit as examples.

They should reopen as a Nazi museum

After the Confederates, Who’s Next?

By Patrick J. Buchanan

On Sept. 1, 1864, Union forces under Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman, victorious at Jonesborough, burned Atlanta and began the March to the Sea where Sherman’s troops looted and pillaged farms and towns all along the 300-mile road to Savannah.

Captured in the Confederate defeat at Jonesborough was William Martin Buchanan of Okolona, Mississippi, who was transferred by rail to the Union POW stockade at Camp Douglas, Illinois.

By the standards of modernity, my great-grandfather, fighting to prevent the torching of Georgia’s capital, was engaged in a criminal and immoral cause. And “Uncle Billy” Sherman was a liberator.

Under President Grant, Sherman took command of the Union army and ordered Gen. Philip Sheridan, who had burned the Shenandoah Valley to starve Virginia into submission, to corral the Plains Indians on reservations.

It is in dispute as to whether Sheridan said, “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” There is no dispute as to the contempt Sheridan had for the Indians, killing their buffalo to deprive them of food.

Today, great statues stand in the nation’s capital, along with a Sherman and a Sheridan circle, to honor these most ruthless of generals in that bloodiest of wars that cost 620,000 American lives.

Yet, across the South and even in border states like Kentucky, Maryland and Missouri, one may find statues of Confederate soldiers in town squares to honor the valor and sacrifices of the Southern men and boys who fought and fell in the Lost Cause.

When the Spanish-American War broke out, President McKinley, who as a teenage soldier had fought against “Stonewall” Jackson in the Shenandoah and been at Antietam, bloodiest single-day battle of the Civil War, removed his hat and stood for the singing of “Dixie,” as Southern volunteers and former Confederate soldiers paraded through Atlanta to fight for their united country. My grandfather was in that army.

For a century, Americans lived comfortably with the honoring, North and South, of the men who fought on both sides.

But today’s America is not the magnanimous country we grew up in.

Since the ’60s, there has arisen an ideology that holds that the Confederacy was the moral equivalent of Nazi Germany and those who fought under its battle flag should be regarded as traitors or worse.

Thus, in New Orleans, statues of Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States of America, and General Robert E. Lee were just pulled down. And a drive is underway to take down the statue of Andrew Jackson, hero of the Battle of New Orleans and president of the United States, which stands in Jackson Square.

Why? Old Hickory was a slave owner and Indian fighter who used his presidential power to transfer the Indians of Georgia out to the Oklahoma Territory in a tragedy known as the Trail of Tears.

But if Jackson, and James K. Polk, who added the Southwest and California to the United States after the Mexican-American War, were slave owners, so, too, were four of our first five presidents.

The list includes the father of our country, George Washington, the author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, and the author of our Constitution, James Madison.

Not only are the likenesses of Washington and Jefferson carved on Mount Rushmore, the two Virginians are honored with two of the most magnificent monuments and memorials in Washington, D.C.

Behind this remorseless drive to blast the greatest names from America’s past off public buildings, and to tear down their statues and monuments, is an egalitarian extremism rooted in envy and hate.

Among its core convictions is that spreading Christianity was a cover story for rapacious Europeans who, after discovering America, came in masses to dispossess and exterminate native peoples. “The white race,” wrote Susan Sontag, “is the cancer of human history.”

Today, the men we were taught to revere as the great captains, explorers, missionaries and nation-builders are seen by many as part of a racist, imperialist, genocidal enterprise, wicked men who betrayed and eradicated the peace-loving natives who had welcomed them.

What they blindly refuse to see is that while its sins are scarlet, as are those of all civilizations, it is the achievements of the West that are unrivaled. The West ended slavery. Christianity and the West gave birth to the idea of inalienable human rights.

As scholar Charles Murray has written, 97 percent of the world’s most significant figures and 97 percent of the world’s greatest achievements in the arts, architecture, literature, astrology, biology, earth sciences, physics, medicine, mathematics and technology came from the West.

What is disheartening is not that there are haters of our civilization out there, but that there seem to be fewer defenders.

Of these icon-smashers it may be said: Like ISIS and Boko Haram, they can tear down statues, but these people could never build a country.

What happens, one wonders, when these Philistines discover that the seated figure in the statue, right in front of D.C.’s Union Station, is the High Admiral of the Ocean Sea, Christopher Columbus?

http://buchanan.org/blog/confe...tes-whos-next-127112

These people say that Confederate flags and artifacts belong in Museums. Now they want them out of Museums. Didn't see that coming.

It's all about power, flexing muscle. This is giving the finger to southern whites, saying "We own your history. Next we own you."

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It's all about power, flexing muscle. This is giving the finger to southern whites, saying "We own your history. Next we own you."

They might have some success with the former given the rampant cowardice of politicians today, but I assure you, they will have 'zero' success with the latter if they're stupid enough to march down that road.

To go along with Pat Buchanan's column, here is another.

https://townhall.com/columnist...antiwestern-n2330348

Anti-Confederacy or Anti-Western?

A statue of Robert E. Lee is the last of four statues commemorating the Confederacy that leftist activists in New Orleans succeeded in bringing down this past weekend.

All Confederate symbols are monuments to “white supremacy,” the left assures us. This is the justification for the campaign to erase them from public view.

Pro-Confederate Southerners, however, have always maintained that they have never been interested in memorializing “supremacy” of any kind. Rather, their symbols are expressions of a rich and storied cultural history. Statues such as those of Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee that were just razed in the Big Easy are monuments to patriots and heroes who were willing to forego all in order to conserve that culture for future generations.

“Heritage, not Hate,” is how the pro-Confederate South has been putting it for decades now.

And while the account standardly offered by heritage-affirming Southerners is true as far as it goes, the reality is that it does not go nearly far enough.

The truth is that the attack on Southern cultural symbols is an attack on American symbols.

Let’s be clear: Though the movement to eradicate all open, public commemorations of Southerners who fought for the Confederacy is anti-Confederacy, it is not, ultimately, an anti-Confederate movement. And though it most certainly is anti-Southern, it is not, ultimately, anti-Southern.

In the last resort, the movement to strip the public consciousness of any and all affection for the Confederate heroes that sought to secede from the Union is an anti-American movement.

Southern secessionists repudiated the Union. They never repudiated America. More specifically, they repudiated the presumed authority of a central government that, they were confident, had exceeded anything permitted to it by the Constitution.

But those Southerners who sided with the Confederacy never rejected America. Quite the contrary, for they saw in themselves the spirit of their ancestors come alive again: Just as such estimable Southerners as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, James Madison, and many more sacrificed all so that Americans could secede from the oppressive government of England, so too did their posterity below the Mason-Dixon line “mutually pledge” to one another their “Lives,” “Fortunes,” and “Sacred Honor” so that they could secede from an oppressive federal government.

Those who fought for the Confederate States of America, like the act of secession itself, are as American as the proverbial apple pie. Confederate soldiers are American soldiers. From at least the time of the late 19th century, beginning at the close of the Spanish-American War (in which, as in all American wars, Southerners fought with distinction), Confederate veterans began receiving recognition that they were American veterans. A few decades later, through an act of Congress, they were endowed with the same status as Union soldiers. By the 1930s, they were eligible to receive pension benefits from the United States government, and in the 1950s, the spouses and children of Confederate veterans became just as eligible to receive these benefits as their Union counterparts.

The demonization of Confederate veterans is nothing more or less than the demonization of American veterans.

The Confederates were American patriots. Never has there been a group of Americans that so embodied the Spirit of ’76, the love for liberty exemplified by the country’s Founders. That there were some Southern secessionists that had an interest invested in preserving slavery is certain. That they constituted, in the words of one Confederate soldier whose letters were recovered, “a very small minority” is equally certain. Indeed, the vast majority of Confederate warriors, like the majority of Southerners, did not own slaves.

In fact, a number of eminent Confederate generals, like, for example, General Lee, did not own slaves. Lee had inherited seven or so slaves, but he freed them long before the War Between the States erupted.

Not only, though, did neither Lee nor most of his compatriots in Dixie care to defend slavery; they didn’t even want to secede. Yet they viewed secession as a “necessity,” as Jefferson Davis characterized it in his inaugural address to the newly formed confederacy, the only means available for escaping the compact that the Northern states, via the central government, had violated. Lee, for one, remarked that unless the individual states retained their sovereignty, their Constitutional rights, “free government” itself would be no more and the American government would become “aggressive abroad and despotic at home.”

It is nothing short of a national disgrace that American patriots have permitted the most arrogant of activist-ideologues to wage a cultural-cleansing campaign against the South. Mainstream “conservative” talking heads and scribblers have said little to nothing. Doubtless, their neglect of this issue has something to do with their belief that it is only Southerners who the left seeks to demoralize and culturally-destroy.

But as I have tried showing, they couldn’t be more wrong. The left knows this, even if Yankee “conservative” commentators choose to ignore it. The attack on Southern heritage is an attack on American heritage. Lee, Davis, and other gallant men that hailed from the South and who fought in the Confederacy are easy targets at the present moment precisely because both Southern and Northern “conservatives” have failed miserably in making this point.

Actually, even I—a white, Christian, heterosexual man in his mid-40s who was born, raised, and continues to reside in New Jersey—understates the nature of the left’s campaign. The latter is indeed an assault upon American heritage, but America—or “AmeriKKKa,” as the enemies of all things Confederacy have been calling it for 50 years—is despised by the left precisely and only insofar as they view it as the emblem par excellence of all that they despise in Western civilization itself.

The campaign against the “white supremacy” of the Confederacy is a campaign, ultimately, against the “white supremacy” of Western civilization. It is a war against the West. Attacks against statues of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis are no more attacks against Southerners than are attacks against statues of Christopher Columbus exclusive attacks against Italians.

From the standpoint of the left, the history of the whole Western world is a history of “racism,” “white supremacy,” “sexism,” “colonialism,” “imperialism,” “homophobia,” “xenophobia,” “Islamophobia,” and any and every other “ism” or “phobia” in the leftist’s litany of cardinal moral offenses.

The militant left’s assault on the Confederacy is one battle in a much larger war against the West. From within its frame of reference, the only difference between Southern Confederates and the rest of the West is that the Confederate heroes are currently more vulnerable prey. The logic of the left’s vision is inexorable: All historical figures of European ancestry who the cultural cleansers deem insufficiently “progressive” must be, as best possible, scrubbed from public memory.

Both Northern and Southern patriots alike had better realize this.

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The demonization of Confederate veterans is nothing more or less than the demonization of American veterans.
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The militant left’s assault on the Confederacy is one battle in a much larger war against the West. From within its frame of reference, the only difference between Southern Confederates and the rest of the West is that the Confederate heroes are currently more vulnerable prey. The logic of the left’s vision is inexorable: All historical figures of European ancestry who the cultural cleansers deem insufficiently “progressive” must be, as best possible, scrubbed from public memory.

It' happening here too.... Sad!



Confederate monument will be gone from Forest Park by Friday under new agreement


ST. LOUIS • The controversial Confederate Monument in Forest Park will be removed by the end of the week under an agreement announced Monday.

In a settlement between St. Louis and the Missouri Civil War Museum, the museum agrees to remove the massive marker by the end of the day Friday — and perhaps much more quickly. Workers began rapidly deconstructing the monument Monday, shortly after the settlement was announced.

The museum will foot the bill for the move, and agreed to store the monument until a permanent new location is found for it. That permanent location must be at a Civil War museum, battlefield or cemetery, the agreement says.

The museum also agrees not to display the monument in the city of St. Louis or St. Louis County.

The Missouri Civil War Museum in Jefferson Barracks has expressed interest in taking the memorial for two years, but a potential deal fell through with former Mayor Francis Slay’s administration when the city wanted a say in how the monument would be displayed in the future.


Confederate memorial in Forest Park comes down
St. Louis Post-Dispatch

The museum has since claimed ownership of the structure. The city has maintained that it owns the monument and began dismantling it before the museum went to court to stop its removal.

In a statement released Monday morning, Mayor Lyda Krewson said it was time to move forward on the issue.

“Although it is our position that the city controls the monument and would have prevailed in court, the city has entered into this agreement to avoid protracted legal proceedings and move forward immediately with the monument’s removal,” the statement said. “This is an outcome both parties wanted.”

St. Louis officials have discussed taking down the memorial since 2015, but it has proved to be a political and logistical challenge. It has also sparked a debate similar to those surrounding other Confederate monuments throughout the country, with some residents fighting to protect them as pieces of American history and others contending they are painful reminders of white supremacy.

Cultural genocide is imminent.
It is the liberal way.

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Confederate monument will be gone from Forest Park by Friday under new agreement

This is the kind of shit you expect to see in third world countries and former Soviet Socialist republics, not here.

What the f*ck is going on!