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Man shot by gun in oven
June 06, 2018, 04:14 PM
Modern Day SavageMan shot by gun in oven
What I found interesting in this story is that many members over the years have reported keeping their guns in vehicles in Summer heat and I've never heard of a cartridge igniting in those conditions. I've carried one particular gun in triple digit heat several times with no issues. Obviously the temperatures required to ignite a cartridge are higher than are what are normally encountered in ambient environments...but this clearly demonstrates that there is a flash point for a cartridge primer and powder.
Local radio news reported that he placed the gun in the oven for safe keeping when he learned that children would be coming to the home.
http://www.wfmj.com/story/3825...e-it-was-in-his-ovenWarren man shot by gun while it was in his oven
Posted: May 22, 2018 5:40 PM MDT
Updated: May 29, 2018 2:18 PM MDT
By Lauren Stebelton, Multi Media Producer
WARREN, Ohio -
A man in Warren was injured after being shot by a gun that went off while it was in his oven.
Police said the incident happened on Riverview Avenue on the city's Northwest side Sunday evening.
Detectives told 21 News the man placed a revolver in the broiler section of the oven to keep it safe.
A woman who lives at the home then started using the oven to cook when the gun went off, according to police.
Detectives said the man was in the basement at the time and did not know the woman was cooking.
When he heard the first shot, he ran upstairs and tried to get the gun out of the oven, but it was too hot.
It fired again, striking him twice, according to police.
Police said he is very lucky that he wasn't injured any worse.
The man was taken to the hospital and is expected to be alright.
Police have not filed any charges at this time.June 06, 2018, 04:18 PM
myrottietyWow. Yea.. that little "storage drawer" under the oven is a great place to store Tupperware or some bamboo place mats.
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Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. June 06, 2018, 04:21 PM
GeorgeairPerhaps the most negligent of ND ever.
What a maroon.
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June 06, 2018, 04:24 PM
signewt"Detectives told 21 News the man placed a [bold] revolver [/bold]in the broiler section of the oven to keep it safe......
When he heard the first shot, he ran upstairs and tried to get the gun out of the oven, but it was too hot.
It fired again, striking him twice, according to police."
Label me a skeptic about this being accurate version of what happened.....
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June 06, 2018, 04:31 PM
Sailor1911quote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
Perhaps the most negligent of ND ever.
What a maroon.
Well, at least he wasn't doing back handsprings. ;-)
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trapper189How plausible is the story?
June 06, 2018, 04:33 PM
JellyIt could happen.
June 06, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jimbo54quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
How plausible is the story?
I'm wondering the same thing. I'd be surprised if an oven could get hot enough to cause a discharge. As far as 2 shots out of a revolver goes, I suppose one could have been from the cylinder that's not lined up with the barrel. Sounds pretty fishy to me.
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June 06, 2018, 04:39 PM
Bisleyblackhawkquote:
Originally posted by Jelly:
It could happen.
Maybe with a Webley-Fossbery
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June 06, 2018, 04:43 PM
rusbroOf all the places to hide a gun. That's the best he could come up with?
Almost makes keistering a gun sound reasonable.
June 06, 2018, 04:47 PM
Pale HorseThe part where it says that the second shot struck him twice makes me think that the second shot was from a cartridge not lined up with the barrel and that the bullet split upon firing.
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June 06, 2018, 04:53 PM
Modern Day Savagequote:
Originally posted by Pale Horse:
The part where it says that the second shot struck him twice makes me think that the second shot was from a cartridge not lined up with the barrel and that the bullet split upon firing.
That was my assumption as well.
June 06, 2018, 04:53 PM
Elk Hunterquote:
Originally posted by signewt:
"Detectives told 21 News the man placed a [bold] revolver [/bold]in the broiler section of the oven to keep it safe......
When he heard the first shot, he ran upstairs and tried to get the gun out of the oven, but it was too hot.
It fired again, striking him twice, according to police."
Label me a skeptic about this being accurate version of what happened.....
Yeah, me too! Questionable that a bullet that fired out of the cylinder but not down the barrel would have enough velocity to punch through the oven door and then injure the guy. I can see rounds "cooking off" in the oven. But with enough velocity to punch thru the door?
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June 06, 2018, 04:56 PM
Modern Day Savagequote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by signewt:
"Detectives told 21 News the man placed a [bold] revolver [/bold]in the broiler section of the oven to keep it safe......
When he heard the first shot, he ran upstairs and tried to get the gun out of the oven, but it was too hot.
It fired again, striking him twice, according to police."
Label me a skeptic about this being accurate version of what happened.....
Yeah, me too! Questionable that a bullet that fired out of the cylinder but not down the barrel would have enough velocity to punch through the oven door and then injure the guy. I can see rounds "cooking off" in the oven. But with enough velocity to punch thru the door?
Not enough info to know for certain, but the article said that he tried to get the gun out of the oven but that it was too hot...I assumed that the gun fired while the door was open while he was trying to remove it.
Gotta keep those oven mitts handy!
June 06, 2018, 05:01 PM
GustoferI've got a buddy who stores his kitchen gun in his oven. This is why I wouldn't. I'd certainly forget that it's there.
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June 06, 2018, 05:03 PM
Georgeairquote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
I've got a buddy who stores his kitchen gun in his oven. This is why I wouldn't. I'd certainly forget that it's there.
Microwave ok?
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June 06, 2018, 05:34 PM
ZSMICHAELWarren, Ohio. Yeah it could happen like that.
June 06, 2018, 05:43 PM
kimber1911Probably should have moved after the revolver shot him once. Why stick around for the second shot?
The revolver should have kept shooting until the threat had subsided or it was out of ammo.
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tatortoddI'm not buying the story.
quote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
Perhaps the most negligent of ND ever.
What a maroon.
I could put a gun in my Dad's oven and it'd be perfectly fine as the only time it gets turned on is when I'm there. BTW, I live 1000+ miles away.
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. June 06, 2018, 06:15 PM
John SteedIf you know there will be kids in the house and you can't think of anyplace else to hide your handgun but the oven, maybe you should at least unload it first? Let your wife in on the secret hiding place?
It does sound fishy. A few years back there was a similar story in the local news where a handgun hidden in an oven fired and killed a child. At the time I wondered if that was a story someone cooked up to cover an AD.
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