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Chinese Military Enters Afghanistan Fray with Pentagon’s Knowledge
March 08, 2017, 02:53 PM
DennisMChinese Military Enters Afghanistan Fray with Pentagon’s Knowledge
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
Serious question: If the land has resources, why have the native people been unable to elevate themselves above the level of "shithole". While tempting to blame it on Islam, those resources were there before Mohammed. Is there a genetic predisposition toward irrational behavior?
Everything you need to know about Afghanistan can be learned from Rudyard Kipling.
The only thing that's changed since then has been their occasional access to Toyota pickups and AKs.
March 08, 2017, 03:20 PM
sig226fanquote:
Originally posted by DennisM:
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
Serious question: If the land has resources, why have the native people been unable to elevate themselves above the level of "shithole". While tempting to blame it on Islam, those resources were there before Mohammed. Is there a genetic predisposition toward irrational behavior?
Everything you need to know about Afghanistan can be learned from Rudyard Kipling.
The only thing that's changed since then has been their occasional access to Toyota pickups and AKs.
It is the same thing you see in Africa as well. It is tribalism with a bit of religion thrown in the mix to really cement the stupid together. It has been bred into the population for so long, that these people are incapable of progressing forward for the betterment of their whole society. They don't or won't try to make changes to better themselves, and in turn their surrounding and life circumstances.
It's all about clean living. Just do the right thing, and karma will help with the rest. September 05, 2017, 11:30 AM
chellim1Can we pull out now?
The one thing they never destroy in Afghanistan are the poppy fields.
I'm beginning to wonder if the reason we are there is to protect the heroin trade.
And keep the money flowing to the MIC, of course.
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signewtquote:
They don't or won't try to make changes to better themselves, and in turn their surrounding and life circumstances.
sounds like the urban DNC league
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September 05, 2017, 12:19 PM
konata88Interesting how PRC would respond if terrorist attacks become prevalent there similar to those being observed in EU.
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cslingerIt's like a super power right of passage. Your nobody until you've fucked over by the middle eastern equivalent to Appalachia.
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September 05, 2017, 12:34 PM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
Why not let them take a crack at it. Hasn't worked out for anybody else so far.
One potential problem would be that their goals are no doubt in some ways different from ours, thus their presence might prevent us from targeting people we think need killin'. For example, it seems possible to me they could make a business arrangement with folks we consider terrorists.
September 05, 2017, 12:49 PM
EdmondI don't think the Afghans want the Chinese to get pissed and fuck their world.
The Chinese have little regard for life, have the human capital (over 1 billion Chinese), a modern military and the willingness to use whatever force is necessary.
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September 05, 2017, 01:05 PM
cslingerCuz the Russians were such cuddly friendly backwater folks when they had their go?
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September 05, 2017, 01:17 PM
wishfull thinkerAll of us are ready to curb stomp Afghanistan but we forget what it has added to the enrichment of our cultural and literary heritage for instance, but I quote only in part;
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, then roll on your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your God like a soldier. RK
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September 05, 2017, 01:31 PM
CromWe ignore operations in Afghanistan...
They ignore our operations in North Korea ?
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September 05, 2017, 01:39 PM
Monkquote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
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Originally posted by FishOn:
Thats right. They wont fight anyone. They'll just take the minerals and bribe their way in and out.
Although the Chinese are often regarded as shrewd business people, they do have a pretty sizable and rapidly modernizing military. One of the things that is holding them back is lack of practice--they haven't had the same experience fighting wars as we have. They know this, we know this. They may be using this opportunity to train to fight an insurgency type conflict.
If ever a fight came to American soil, our opponents better be well equipped to fight an civilian insurgency in addition to conventional warfare.
Except our civilians would be better equipped than them in general. :P
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September 05, 2017, 05:54 PM
sns3guppyquote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
????
Immediately not worth reading once Breitbart is invoked...but who has their head buried so deep in the sand that they're not aware that China has been heavily mining minerals in Afghanistan for years, now? How is this possibly news?
That China may put troops on the ground isn't exactly earth shattering, either.
The Chinese have been in country for a long time.
September 05, 2017, 07:14 PM
heydrichJust looking to get some combat experince for their troops for .......................
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September 05, 2017, 11:14 PM
bubbatimequote:
Originally posted by darkest2000:
Maybe we'll get to see China sucked into a 20 year war in Afghanistan.
Hopefully. They can invade, and absorb the country into China for all I care. China can deal with terrorist like no other civilized western country can.
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September 06, 2017, 12:24 AM
drew3630quote:
Originally posted by mark_a:
They get to take stuff, get some experience for their military and weapons producer's, and probably kill a bunch of Muslims in their country. If they lose a few divisions along the way that just reduces the problem of way too many males in their population.
China has a population way more than a billion. They don't mind losing a few thousand