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Policewoman shot dead playing 'fastest to draw' in Paris

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March 11, 2019, 05:19 PM
Dusty78
Policewoman shot dead playing 'fastest to draw' in Paris
Don’t they carry 2022’s? If so it’s kinda hard to “accidently” pull the DA trigger if de-cocked.


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March 11, 2019, 07:47 PM
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March 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
dsiets
These are the class who the media describe as highly trained and thus, the only ones who should be able to wield firearms.
March 11, 2019, 10:22 PM
DoubleAdobe
Cochise County Arizona.1972. Two Cochise County deputies were at the Bowie Substation and decided to have an impromptu fast-draw contest.Deputy Danny Alexander shot and killed J.D. Smith. Shot him in the neck, was deceased when the medics got there.
Deputy Alexander was not prosecuted, adjudged as an accident,however he was fired the next day by Sheriff Jimmie Judd.
True story.
March 11, 2019, 10:40 PM
Pipe Smoker
^^^^^^^^
Note to self: don’t participate in fast-draw contests.



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March 11, 2019, 10:55 PM
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March 12, 2019, 02:25 PM
car541
I have heard of being “bored to death”, but I thought it was only a figure of speech.


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March 12, 2019, 02:34 PM
car541
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Originally posted by DoubleAdobe:
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This was a quick draw demonstration too.

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March 12, 2019, 02:48 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:
Don’t they carry 2022’s? If so it’s kinda hard to “accidently” pull the DA trigger if de-cocked.

In this case, for the special French edition, DA doesn't stand for double action.



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March 12, 2019, 03:01 PM
Rightwire
I believe... If I recall correctly.... That the quick draw gunfight between two cowboys at high noon is mostly a Hollywood creation and rarely if ever happened in the real west.




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March 12, 2019, 06:43 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by C-Dubs:
One of my coworkers related his story with attempting a quick draw after inheriting a single action army from his father. He practiced and practiced, and when he attempted it for real, he blew a hole in the ground about 2” in front of his big toe.
Said that was the first and last time for that.

Must've had the thing cocked in the holster?!?!



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March 12, 2019, 07:18 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Must've had the thing cocked in the holster?!?!


Not necessarily. If the user wishes to shoot a single action revolver immediately after drawing, it’s necessary to manually cock the hammer. For maximum speed that will be as the revolver is drawn and being brought up to be aimed at the target, including while it’s still pointed at the ground. In addition to cocking the hammer, the shooter then must drop his thump down into position for a proper firing grip on the gun. Waiting until the revolver is pointed at the target to do all that is very slow in comparison.

All that’s fine, but what happens with a careless or overeager shooter is that they also get their finger on the trigger before the revolver is aimed at the target. That’s why shots are sometimes fired into the ground—if not the shooter’s leg. I’m not familiar with the state of the fast draw sport today, but I know that at one time it was common for such competitors to have an angled metal deflection plate mounted below the holster to prevent them from shooting themselves in the leg or foot with a wax bullet because such accidents were so common.

Keep in mind that it’s only been in the last 30+ years that safety emphasis has been placed on “keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target (or you’re ready to shoot).” It was only near the end of my career carrying an issued DA revolver that much of anyone worried about that issue. But what wasn’t a problem with a long, heavy DA pull became a major hazard if the shooter cocked the hammer during a draw to engagement.




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March 12, 2019, 08:34 PM
C-Dubs
From the way he explained it, he cocked the hammer while drawing the pistol and made it about 3/4 the way out of the holster when he got his finger in the trigger guard and had it discharge.



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March 12, 2019, 08:45 PM
sns3guppy
I used to work with a genius who had managed to nick or ding himself three times by negligent discharge attempting single action fast draw.

Apparently he was so fast on the draw that he was unable to get out of the way in time, and so outdrew himself, and outgunned himself on three different occasions.

Of course, it's also true that he kept losing...to himself. When one can't win a solo gunfight, it may be time to quit.
March 12, 2019, 08:52 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by C-Dubs:
[H]e cocked the hammer while drawing the pistol and made it about 3/4 the way out of the holster when he got his finger in the trigger guard ....


Q.E.D.




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