A big 2A win today!

https://katu.com/news/local/ha...-portland-salem-news

Cool for you guys. But (and look where I’m from) expect an appeal from the state AG, then to the 9th (who automatically grant stays in 2A cases)and then maybe in a decade work its way to the SCOTUS. Hopefully the makeup of the court doesn’t change by then.

Sucks, but Oregon has become CA with more rain.

Here's a link with the actual ruling if anyone is interested. Judge Raschio did a great job of spelling it out.

https://www.oregonfirearms.org...red-unconstitutional

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Originally posted by jer830:
Cool for you guys. But (and look where I’m from) expect an appeal from the state AG, then to the 9th (who automatically grant stays in 2A cases)and then maybe in a decade work its way to the SCOTUS. Hopefully the makeup of the court doesn’t change by then.

Sucks, but Oregon has become CA with more rain.

Raschio's ruling is based upon the Oregon state constitution, I don't know that there's a federal issue -at the moment - that would jump this into the 9th Circus.

Once again Gun Owners of America delivers, and why I am a proud member of this organization. Good Job GOA.

That said, these fucked up liberal Oregon "churches" which backed this measure have got to stop it.

They take a dump and then walk away. Didn't cost them a dime.

Not to mention, churches really aren't supposed to back political causes, but nobody seems to care about that at the moment.

Yeah, but if those same churches had supported a conservative cause instead, they'd have been shut down immediately.

I’ll take the win

I am not a lawyer but after reading the ruling the judge seemed to break the law up, as written, into several pieces and objected to the wording in each.

In the case of the magazine capacity limits, he decided that 'magazine' was defined as including both the fixed and the removable portion. So any gun with a ten round removable magazine plus one round in the fixed magazine (the chamber) equals 11 rounds. That would make virtually any gun with a 10 round magazine capacity inserted capable of 11 rounds total (10+1 in the gun ads) and therefore make them illegal.

Expect a ver2 that will not only correct this error by changing the wording to '11 round maximum capacity', but also streamline it by separating this specific thing from the other parts of 114 (30 day delay, permit to purchase, etc) that the judge seemed to take issue with if this should go against the State in appeal.

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Originally posted by Anarion:

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Originally posted by jer830:
Cool for you guys. But (and look where I’m from) expect an appeal from the state AG, then to the 9th (who automatically grant stays in 2A cases)and then maybe in a decade work its way to the SCOTUS. Hopefully the makeup of the court doesn’t change by then.

Sucks, but Oregon has become CA with more rain.

Raschio's ruling is based upon the Oregon state constitution, I don't know that there's a federal issue -at the moment - that would jump this into the 9th Circus.

And this is important, assuming the Oregon Supreme Court is more sane than the 9th. Independent constitutional analysis is an important concept that I think gets under-utilized in gun cases. I think a lot of that is a function of the national level money to fight these laws.