Politicians should have to face a shitstorm for racist/offensive behavior. They can and should be held to a higher standard.
Entertainers?
They can just be ignored.
It's a waste of time/energy to boycott or demand their removal. I don't care if that entertainer is on the left or right.
These days, it is a good idea to remember you can actually choose what to be offended by.
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February 02, 2019, 07:15 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught: Hurd should have smacked him head on. Cannot let that sort of shit pass unchallenged...
Oh bullshit.
I can't stand Bill Maher, but guess what? HE'S A COMEDIAN!!!!
Comedians, the good ones anyway, make fun of everybody. Why? Because we used to be able to laugh at ourselves. Here's an idea - let's get back to that. Unless, of course, you want to wallow in self pity and to be offended just by getting up in the morning.
Remember a time when this was funny?
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February 02, 2019, 07:19 PM
dsiets
Nothing new for Bill. I don't expect either side to be surprised. When you're a liberal comedian, you can say such things. Nothings shocking.
February 02, 2019, 07:35 PM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer: I can't stand Bill Maher, but guess what? HE'S A COMEDIAN!!!!
Awfully fast and loose with the term "COMEDIAN", eh Gustofer? Maher is nowhere NEAR a comedian. He's a pompous ass. Nothing more, nothing less. He and Samantha Bee can go fellate themselves...repeatedly.
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February 02, 2019, 07:40 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught: Hurd should have smacked him head on. Cannot let that sort of shit pass unchallenged...
Oh bullshit.
I can't stand Bill Maher, but guess what? HE'S A COMEDIAN!!!!
Comedian, eh? Fooled me. He most times seems to fancy himself a political pundit, but then throws out the comedian shtick when he wants to be crude.
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February 02, 2019, 07:45 PM
Gustofer
Fine. He's a racist.
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February 02, 2019, 11:39 PM
TigerDore
Maher is a bitter, immature little fellow, but since he's one of favored NAZIs, he will probably get a pass on this.
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February 03, 2019, 12:17 AM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer: Remember a time when this was funny?
Thanks for posting that SNL video. I hadn't seen that one in quite some time. Chase and Pryor were hysterical. God I wish we could all get back to that point and enjoy a good laugh for a change.
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February 03, 2019, 01:05 AM
Nuclear
The difference between that SNL video and Bill Maher is the video is funny, and Maher isn't, hence he isn't a comedian, just a racist hack.
Originally posted by Gustofer: Fine. He's a racist.
I never called him a racist. And I'm not offended at all by what he says. What he does though is always try to have it both ways. I find him extremely tiresome nowadays.
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
February 03, 2019, 11:48 AM
patw
I never watched his show but agree, comedian or not, the liberals made rules their way.The left would have shut down the show if it was a conservative saying that and would definitely go after them, even if it was years later. I think it is foolish but I say let them eat their own and die by their own sword.
February 03, 2019, 01:27 PM
Il Cattivo
When comedians see themselves, and tout themselves, as shapers of public opinion then they need to be held to the same standards they espouse. There's no reason to let them off the hook when they make careers out of taking sides.
February 03, 2019, 01:42 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76: Politicians should have to face a shitstorm for racist/offensive behavior. They can and should be held to a higher standard.
Entertainers?
They can just be ignored.
It's a waste of time/energy to boycott or demand their removal. I don't care if that entertainer is on the left or right.
These days, it is a good idea to remember you can actually choose what to be offended by.
So free speech to entertainers and none for politicians. Got it.
February 04, 2019, 05:05 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo: When comedians see themselves, and tout themselves, as shapers of public opinion then they need to be held to the same standards they espouse. There's no reason to let them off the hook when they make careers out of taking sides.
This sums it up best. If he was just a comedian it would be one thing. But this asshole stoner proports to be some kind of quasi political analyst in a lot of his actions. Ignoring his indiscretions comes at our peril.
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February 04, 2019, 05:24 AM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76: Politicians should have to face a shitstorm for racist/offensive behavior. They can and should be held to a higher standard.
Entertainers?
They can just be ignored.
It's a waste of time/energy to boycott or demand their removal. I don't care if that entertainer is on the left or right.
These days, it is a good idea to remember you can actually choose what to be offended by.
So free speech to entertainers and none for politicians. Got it.
Entertainers and politicians hold the same roles?
You seem confused between having a right to free speech, and being accountable for that speech.
You can change the channel on Mayer. Does he have the same impact as Ralph Northam? No.
There are things to get upset about. Comedians and entertainers are waaaaay down the list from people who are elected and payed by tax payers to run the government.
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February 04, 2019, 08:30 AM
Rick Lee
Do CIA agents even gather intel inside the US? I thought that job belonged to the FBI if inside the US and to the CIA outside the US.
February 04, 2019, 08:34 AM
egregore
Bill Maher is much less a comedian than a wannabe political pundit. When he gets called on his outrageous statements (like hoping the economy crashes so as to make Trump a one-term president or even drive him out of office before that), he then falls back on "just being a comedian." His way of having it both ways.
February 04, 2019, 08:36 AM
smschulz
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Originally posted by arcwelder76: [ Entertainers and politicians hold the same roles?
You seem confused between having a right to free speech, and being accountable for that speech.
You can change the channel on Mayer. Does he have the same impact as Ralph Northam? No.
There are things to get upset about. Comedians and entertainers are waaaaay down the list from people who are elected and payed by tax payers to run the government.
Oh, I get your point, I just don't agree with it.
February 04, 2019, 08:42 AM
Ripley
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Originally posted by arcwelder76: Does he have the same impact as Ralph Northam? No.
In Maher's dreams, he'd be as influential as Jon Stewart. It was disturbing to see how many fools took "The Daily Show" to be a valued source of information, maybe even THE source for them. Maher doesn't have that reach but he's not operating in a vacuum. He may well be doing more damage than Northam.
Maher is nowhere NEAR a comedian. He's a pompous ass. Nothing more, nothing less. He and Samantha Bee can go fellate themselves...repeatedly.