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First Han Solo and now this. Along with the C-130 in MI, not a good aviation day.

Air Canada Plane Mistakenly Lines Up to Land on Taxiway at San Francisco International Airport: FAA

An Air Canada plane on Friday inadvertently lined up to land on a taxiway at San Francisco International Airport before being turned away by an air traffic controller, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

The Air Canada A320 aircraft had been given the green light to land on Runway 28R, but the pilot somehow positioned the plane to land on Taxiway C, which runs parallel to Runway 28R, according to the FAA. The air traffic controller noticed the issue and prompted the plane to abort its landing attempt and make another pass, according to the FAA. The plane circled around and landed successfully on its second attempt, the FAA said.

The Mercury News reported Monday that there were four planes fully loaded with passengers and fuel sitting on Taxiway C at the time of the incident, according to the FAA.

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Apparently he missed that huge "28R" painted on the concrete.


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Oh, you mean THAT 28R?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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How common is this? Are all aborted or can they fix it? I assume that depends on distance out on the glide path.


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That's in English. These guys were Canadian.
 
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Oh, you mean THAT 28R?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

tac
That is not a believable Canadian quote as it is missing both the apology and the eh? Big Grin



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How common is this? Are all aborted or can they fix it? I assume that depends on distance out on the glide path.

Common to line up on a taxiway? Exceedingly uncommon. I suspect they were not paying particularly close to their navigation tools because those navigation aids give pretty darn precise info close to the ground.

Common to go around? Not common but happens often enough.

"Are all aborted"? Not sure what that means.

You can do a go-around/rejected landing so low that you bounce the wheels on the ground. The procedures, which are charted, will remain the same.


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As Otto said, it is not common. The media goes in cycles of reporting these types of incidents, so it appears to be happening more often.


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Several years ago an Asiana 777 crashed into 28L, totally different cirsumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Airlines_Flight_214
 
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Oh, you mean THAT 28R?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

tac


Actually it was "but wait, that one is left of mine... I wonder when they put mine in...?"






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Canadians. Meh...

I'd rather trust my life to Aeroflot.

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How common is this? Are all aborted or can they fix it? I assume that depends on distance out on the glide path.

Common to line up on a taxiway? Exceedingly uncommon. I suspect they were not paying particularly close to their navigation tools because those navigation aids give pretty darn precise info close to the ground.

Common to go around? Not common but happens often enough.

"Are all aborted"? Not sure what that means.

You can do a go-around/rejected landing so low that you bounce the wheels on the ground. The procedures, which are charted, will remain the same.


Are ya saying the needle wasn't centered and no one noticed? Seems like that should be in a check list somewhere.




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Several years ago an Asiana 777 crashed into 28L, totally different cirsumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Airlines_Flight_214




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"Captain Aimer said that if the tower hadn't been able to swiftly redirect the Air Canada plane, disaster would have followed.

'If you could imagine an Airbus colliding with four passenger aircraft wide bodies, full of fuel and passengers, then you can imagine how horrific this could have been,' he remarked."



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Are ya saying the needle wasn't centered and no one noticed? Seems like that should be in a check list somewhere.

Well I don't want to Monday Morning Quarterback another pilot, but essentially, yeah, unfortunately.

And that typically wouldn't be in a checklist, that's just basic Airmanship 101. Use all possible resources to help you get where you want to go, and line up on the concrete outlined in WHITE lights (runway), not BLUE ones (taxiway).


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"Captain Aimer said that if the tower hadn't been able to swiftly redirect the Air Canada plane, disaster would have followed.

'If you could imagine an Airbus colliding with four passenger aircraft wide bodies, full of fuel and passengers, then you can imagine how horrific this could have been,' he remarked."


Actually, something like this happened years ago, I think in Mexico City, where a very senior pilot in a widebody lined up and landed on a runway closed for maintenance and filled with earthmoving machinery. He forgot to side step.




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"Captain Aimer said that if the tower hadn't been able to swiftly redirect the Air Canada plane, disaster would have followed.

'If you could imagine an Airbus colliding with four passenger aircraft wide bodies, full of fuel and passengers, then you can imagine how horrific this could have been,' he remarked."


Actually, something like this happened years ago, I think in Mexico City, where a very senior pilot in a widebody lined up and landed on a runway closed for maintenance and filled with earthmoving machinery. He forgot to side step.

Western Airlines 2605. A bad situation that one. Bad weather, closed runway, and difference in terminology between Mexican and US controllers


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Are ya saying the needle wasn't centered and no one noticed? Seems like that should be in a check list somewhere.

Well I don't want to Monday Morning Quarterback another pilot, but essentially, yeah, unfortunately.

And that typically wouldn't be in a checklist, that's just basic Airmanship 101. Use all possible resources to help you get where you want to go, and line up on the concrete outlined in WHITE lights (runway), not BLUE ones (taxiway).



Well I know that is how it works in a Piper Archer II so it has to be similar to an A320... Albeit lower and slower.

When I was a kid my sister's best friends dad worked for the FAA and he and his crew checked and adjusted the ILS systems at all airports in their region. He had two retired Navy pilots on his crew... That was some fun flying in a converted Sabre Liner




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