Townhall.com
John Hawkins
April 28, 2018

Every time there is a mass shooting we get the same old song and dance from the gun control fanatics. You’re sorry this happened? Then you must institute gun control. Oh, you don’t want to do that? Then it’s your fault that it happened. The NRA is bad. They kill people. We must have gun control. Innocent law-abiding Americans are responsible. Don’t you feel bad for the victims? Then institute our gun control agenda that will do nothing to stop the killings. It’s hamhanded, relentless propaganda peddled by smug, self-righteous anti-gun zealots.

Well, here are some things you don’t typically see those anti-gun nuts mention when they demand that we disarm the whole country because some crazy murdered people.

1) Some of the worst mass murders didn’t use guns: The worst mass murder on American soil was 9/11 which featured terrorists turning planes into weapons and 2,996 people. Then there was the Oklahoma City Bombing which used explosives and cost the lives of 168. One of the largest mass murders and worst at a school was the Bath School Disaster in 1927 which used dynamite/pyrotol to achieve a 44 person body count. In 1962 a man committed suicide via dynamite ON A PLANE. Forty five people died when it went down. In the 2016 Nice attack in France, 86 people were killed with a large cargo truck. In 2016 in Japan, 19 people were even killed with a knife. The idea that these sort of killings are impossible without guns just isn’t true.

2) America is not the only country with this problem: Mass shootings happen all over the world and if you account for the POPULATION DIFFERENCE between the United States and smaller nations, we’re not even one of the countries with the worst problem,

But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.

So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

The idea that this only happens here just isn’t true.

3) These shooters are all white guys: There’s a long running myth about mass murderers (and for that matter, serial killers) that says they’re almost all white guys. This isn’t correct as even Slate magazine noted in a rare moment of honesty,

The proportion of white mass shooters drops down to 56 percent, by my count. Judging by those newer numbers, and the most current census estimate that 76.9 percent of Americans are white, the whites-are-overrepresented-among-mass-shooters meme appears even less accurate. Perpetrators that Mother Jones classifies as Asian make up 7.4 percent of the data set, versus an estimated 5.7 percent of the population, while those MoJo identifies as black represent 17.0 percent of the mass shooters in the database versus an estimated 13.3 percent of the population. According to this data set, then, Asians and black Americans are overrepresented among mass shooters by about the same proportion (a bit more than one-fourth) that whites are underrepresented.

4) Mass shootings are much more rare than gun control advocates would have you believe: If it bleeds, it leads and the bloodier the better. That means mass shootings get ENORMOUS amounts of publicity every time they happen and if you believe gun control nuts, they happen constantly. But, what are the chances you are actually going to die in a mass shooting? Well, in an anti-gun article in the Washington Post from April of this year, it was noted that 1,081 people had died in mass shootings from 1966 to the present. In other words, roughly 21 people per year died in mass shootings over the last 52 years. Just as a point of comparison, almost one American per day (335 per year) drowns in a bathtub, hot tub or spa. In 2016, according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, 656 people were beaten to death with “hands, fists, feet, etc.” If the mainstream media obsessively focused on stories like these, we’d have people calling for bans on bathtubs and martial arts training. The death of any innocent person is a terrible thing, but the number of deaths via mass shootings doesn’t justify 1/50 of the attention it’s given in a nation of 325 million people.

5) Banning rifles will do very little to address the problem: There is no gun control policy that our government can put in place that will stop mass killings. Let me repeat that: there is no gun control policy that our government can put in place that will stop mass killings. Still, the latest thing we’ve heard from people who exploit the deaths of innocent people to further their political agenda is that they don’t want to ban guns; they just want to get rid of those awful “assault rifles” to prevent mass shootings. That doesn’t make much sense if you actually look at the data on the weapons used in mass shootings.

According to the FBI, rifles of all kinds accounted for just 3 percent of firearm homicides in 2016, while handguns accounted for 65 percent. Contrary to what you may have heard, handguns are also by far the most common choice for mass shooters. A Mother Jones review of mass shootings from 1982 through 2012 found that 66 percent of the weapons were handguns, while just 14 percent would qualify as "assault weapons" under the definition used in a 2013 bill sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). More recent data show a similar pattern.

When the only idea gun control zealots are willing to entertain to stop mass killings is *** surprise *** gun control and the majority of weapons used in those killings are handguns, it doesn’t take a lot of effort to see that their real agenda is to disarm America.

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Just pesky facts to the left. No need to be accurate in their statements

Thanks for posting.

I went to a conference earlier this year where Lt. Col. David Grossman (Ret.) was a keynote speaker. Lt. Col. Grossman is the author of several books and is an expert in all things homicide/mass murder, who coined the term "Killology".

The presentation he gave was eye-opening to say the least and mirrors much of the info provided in the above listed article. He reiterated several times that while the U.S. has a problem, we're not even in the top 20 worldwide.

I was also surprised, which I guess I shouldn't have been, to hear about mass stabbings/murders in schools in Russia, China, and Germany that I'd never heard of before. The main points being, a determined killer doesn't need a firearm and the media controls what they want us to hear.

To the left, those are just facts. They can be ignored and replaced by made up facts. For example, fact: you are 46 times (or 54 or 41, whatever) more likely to harm yourself with a gun in the home.

But I do think there are some people who are unsure, undecided, who can be reached by the truth.

As has been pointed out in recent contributions to other threads in this forum; the Left really doesn't pay much attention to facts. I posted something on Facebook regarding the facts associated with violence in the USA. The first response was from a liberal friend who asked, "What is the source of your "Facts"?" When I said, "Data from the CDC and FBI" he immediately resorted to a personal attack on a conservative poster to my post. The argument grew so hostile that I was embarrassed by their conduct and I deleted the post.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
To the left, those are just facts. They can be ignored and replaced by made up facts. For example, fact: you are 46 times (or 54 or 41, whatever) more likely to harm yourself with a gun in the home.

Of course death by a firearm goes up if it's in the household however:

Your chances of death by drowning if you own or, visit a home with a swimming pool dramatically increases.

The chances of somebody becoming an alcoholic and/or a drunken driver goes up exponentially when alcohol is present in the household.

Death by a vehicle is greatly increased when living in an urban area.

...it could go on.

One status which has a 100% mortality rate AFAIK, is being named “World’s Oldest Living Person.”

Those poor folks are dying all the time, usually not long after they reach that status.

Thanks, saved for future reference

The anti-gunners won't have read those statistics, and wouldn't believe them if they did. If by some odd chance they actually were aware of them and acknowledged their truth, they'd still counter with "But if it saves just one life...."

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