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WTF, recently after a Windows update the system is no longer remembering passwords, and is requiring me to re login to every application again, but the password I've saved isn't coming up.


Win 10 Home Ver 2004 OS Build 19041.685

If the system is rebooted, every password on every program that I use including login names are gone from memory. Not only on programs like mail, outlook, but in Chrome. Every web page that I've recorded and saved logins for no longer work.

I have to re-enter user names, which for some reason it shows as recorded, but the password isn't.

This is a PIA because as well all do I have several logins with different versions of passwords as I have changed them over time.

Even the login passwords in Chrome are gone, like when you clear cache/cookies in chrome and have to re-enter everything, only I'm not doing that, and it happens to programs that are not run under Chrome.

Did something for security in Windows change because I've not changed a single setting, and when I check the saved passwords list in Chrome it's still there, only it doesn't populate anymore.

If I close Chrome and reopen it without rebooting windows it works, this only happens when windows reboots..
 
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That would be a nightmare. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, HRK.
 
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Originally posted by HRK:
If I close Chrome and reopen it without rebooting windows it works, this only happens when windows reboots..

MS-Windows has now taken it upon itself to interfere with applications' persistent data stores? Srsly? That would be



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If I close Chrome and reopen it without rebooting windows it works, this only happens when windows reboots..

MS-Windows has now taken it upon itself to interfere with applications' persistent data stores? Srsly? That would be


Well it appears that way since I've added zero new programs to the PC in over a year, and, made no security changes to the system..


The Chrome thing I think I've solved because windows is logging everything out, Chrome is not logging me into my Google account which is where Google keeps the data on the saved passwords, it pauses it when you open Chrome.

Still I can click in the login name field, and it will populate the login name, however, the associated password data doesn't appear, you know the box that shows the ******* under the login name where the password would show, you click, it populates password and you're in, gone, I have to manually enter the password..


Still, shouldn't have to do that since I've setup the Chrome to have my information for Google to open automatically, It doesn't do this on my iPhone or iPad, just windows PC.

Problem is that Chrome is opening up 5 or so pages that I go to regular including SF, but since windows logs me out, I have to unpause IE log in to Chrome, then close it, then reopen so it has password file access.

Has to be some setting in Win10 that I'm missing that MSFT has activated in a recent update.

Not to mention the absurd problem that Win10 Home and Adobe still have of changing the default PDF reader from what I've set it to, Acrobat and back to MSFT Edge on it's own, multiple times a day when it decides its time to fuck with me. I've had it change back after I've set it on the next PDF I open. Talked to both Adobe and MSFT tech about it, it's well documented on the interwebs, and they both point back at the other.


I need an alternative program to read and edit PDF files and forms... So I can tell them both to KMA

Still the password thing in Windows is a PIA
 
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No help other than asking if you've tried a password manager. Would using one override Windows' faceplant? Were you using a password manager that could have been corrupted by the Win update?




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You might go ahead and update to Windows Home 10 Version 20H2, build 19042.685.

I installed that back in August (on a desktop, laptop, and tablet) and have not been experiencing any problems.

It may be the fix.
 
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As it usually goes with micro$oft, it was (likely) a windows "update" that broke it, and (likely) will require an "update" to fix it. Hell, they even have a name for it! Password amnesia...
https://www.zdnet.com/article/...assword-amnesia-bug/

Looking around on the web, an "update" back in April caused similar problems as you describe. Have you tried doing an "update"?


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As it usually goes with micro$oft, it was (likely) a windows "update" that broke it, and (likely) will require an "update" to fix it. Hell, they even have a name for it! Password amnesia...
https://www.zdnet.com/article/...assword-amnesia-bug/

Looking around on the web, an "update" back in April caused similar problems as you describe. Have you tried doing an "update"?


Sounds like it may be the solution, Windows is set to auto update, I'll look at doing another.

May just upgrade to Pro it's only $99..

That could open up a world of who know what though.
 
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Latest W10 is ver. 20H2.
I've given up waiting for W10 to magically update to the next release like the Alien monster. Does not happen in my machines so i turned to a downloadable MS program called Windows Update Manager.
It has flawlessly brought me to the current version every time.

Windows and Disco, both suck!

Suggest you try updating first if the Home version is available. It should be.

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I think this new feature (deleting passwords) came with the latest update of Windows.

I started having to re-sign passwords. My password manager has a key in addition to my master password and I now have to enter the key also to use the app on my browser. I've been using the password manager since Thanksgiving and this issue started just a few days ago.



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Dec. 30, 2020

Frustrating new Windows 10 bug will delete your saved passwords in Google Chrome

WINDOWS 10 users have been alerted to an extremely frustrating new bug, which deletes saved passwords used in Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge. But thankfully, Microsoft is working on a fix right now.

Of all the annoying things that a software bug can do, deleting all of the passwords that you saved on your machine – and have long since forgotten – must be one of the worst. Unfortunately, that's exactly what has happened to a number of Windows 10 users. Windows 10 users were first hit by the teeth-grindingly annoying bug earlier this year, which also impacts rival browser Microsoft Edge as well as apps like OneDrive.

Microsoft acknowledged the issue last month, which causes apps on Windows 10 machines to forget user credentials that have been saved to the hard drive. When the issue occurs, users are forced to enter usernames and passwords as if logging into the account for the first time. At best, this is an inconvenience – and at worst, if you've forgotten your credentials, you'll need to waste time resetting passwords and the like to get back into an account that's usually logged in by default.

Reports of this irritating Windows 10 bug date back all the way to April, according to a post by Windows Latest. So, this is something that has plagued Windows users for a considerable amount of time.

Part of the reason it has taken so long for Microsoft to clamp down on the issue is that it appears to impact different applications for different users – making it hard to work out whether it's the same issue, or a new one. Describing the issue on the Microsoft Feedback Hub, one affected Windows 10 user wrote: "After upgrading to Windows 10 version 2004, Windows is no longer remembering my credentials/passwords in apps across the system (including the browser) and continually prompting me to sign in again".

Following months of users enduring this bug, the Windows 10 issue is at long last getting fixed in a forthcoming cumulative update. That's the good news.

The bad news is this fix is expected to drop in a patch launching in either February or March next year. Yikes.

Windows 10 users have reported this bug impacting a wide range of apps - besides Chrome, Edge and OneDrive the glitch is also allegedly affecting programmes such as Outlook and Adobe CC.

The bug also reportedly hits when an affected Windows 10 users attempts to login in to a Google or Microsoft account online. Microsoft has said the issue has only affected a small number of Windows 10 users, with a fix being tested by those in the Windows 10 Insider programme.

Eric Lawrence, Microsoft Edge Program Manager, wrote online: "This issue in Windows affects only a comparatively small number of users with S4U task and it’s now fixed in the latest Windows 10 insider channel."

The Windows 10 password forgetting bug isn't the only issue that has recently been impacting users of the world's most popular desktop operating system. Earlier this month, Express.co.uk reported that a patch which was meant to fix a Blue Screen of Death (BSoD) issue that had long been plaguing Windows 10 users was causing a slew of other problems.

Cumulative update KB4592438 was meant to, among other things, fix a BSoD error that had been impacting PCs with Intel NVMe SSDs since May.

And while the patch has cleared this problem up, it has ended up having a knock-on effect of causing other issues.

Problems that have been reported with patch KB4592438 include difficulty installing the update with users being stuck in a loop where they attempt to install the patch and keep getting an error message. Other Windows 10 users have reported performance issues with KB4592438, with CPU and GPU performance allegedly grinding to a halt and the update causing lags when users try to open or close programmes.

And, ironically, some Windows 10 users have reported that KB4592438 - which was meant to clear up one BSoD issue - has in fact caused the dreaded Blue Screen of Death to appear on their PCs.

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As a personal aside - I would never, ever allow Windows or any browser store my passwords. Way too easy to get messed up or compromised. I use LastPass and have used it for years. Extremely easy to use across all platforms including my iPhone.



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