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I'm trying to get an old Rolleicord camera working again, and I've run into a problem.

The film carrier knob is broken, and the screw which is supposed to screw all the way into the knob only screws in one or two threads. When pulling on the knob, it compresses a spring in the camera body, so I feel like the screw needs to be more secure than one or two threads. What would you recommend to stop the knob from coming off, and potentially ruining a roll of film? Loctite on the two threads? Fill the hole with epoxy? Something else?

By the way, spare parts are incredibly hard to find for this model.





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When you say that "the knob is broken," are you referring to the knob shown in the last picture that has the cover missing? Is that the only problem with it?

I'd remove the screw, examine it closely to see if it might have snapped. If so, it may have snapped in place, and the broken off tip may still be in the bottom of the threaded hole. This is not a desirable situation. Getting the remnant out of there may be enough in and of itself to fix the problem. Removing the knob and probing with a needle or toothpick might be revealing. If you don't have a remnant in there, sourcing a replacement screw shouldn't be too tough
 
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When you say that "the knob is broken," are you referring to the knob shown in the last picture that has the cover missing? Is that the only problem with it?

I'd remove the screw, examine it closely to see if it might have snapped. If so, it may have snapped in place, and the broken off tip may still be in the bottom of the threaded hole. This is not a desirable situation. Getting the remnant out of there may be enough in and of itself to fix the problem. Removing the knob and probing with a needle or toothpick might be revealing. If you don't have a remnant in there, sourcing a replacement screw shouldn't be too tough


The part with the threads snapped off so only a few threads remain. It's not a screw, but rather a pretty complex part with a screw thread on the end, which is why I can't just replace it with another screw.



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What's keeping the knob from screwing further in? A short bolt or a short hole? Intentionally designed, or defect?
 
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How hard would it be for you to make one?

A small lathe and the right thread cutter?





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From the pictures it almost looks as though the knob has a female threaded hole, a section of screw is threaded into the knob leaving some length sticking out. If that's the the case just backout the broken portion of screw and replace.

Otherwise, put in lathe (or careful drilling) to make the proper hole to accept the correct tap and thread.

Pictures where the threads meet the knob would help with determining.
 
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Do you actually want to use this camera? It uses 2-1/2" square film (my favorite). If it was my camera, I'd put it in the "display" case and get a Yashika or Bronica to use as an active camera....
 
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Here's a picture of the knob, the spring, and the broken part that threads into the knob.

Ideally I would like to use this camera. Overall it's in good shape, except for a sticky shutter at slow speeds, but all my shots are on faster shutter speeds.



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machinist can easily make that
 
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I'd file what remains of the thread off the part. Drill then tap it to accept what ever thread the "nut/knob" accepts. Buy a matching screw and cut the head off of it... creating a stud essentially. Thread it into the newly tapped hole with some red loctite.

Should be able to reassemble it then with plenty of thread engagement.

I have a lathe and an assortment of common taps. Assuming it's not some oddball thread, you could send it to me if you like and I'll do it at no cost.
 
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The “My Mechanics” dude on YT could make that part for you. I’m sure the schematics for the screw exist somewhere.



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