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Like a phoenix rising from the ashes: The Blackhawk Serpa holster

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February 10, 2024, 07:05 PM
RogueJSK
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes: The Blackhawk Serpa holster
quote:
Originally posted by gjgalligan:
Wouldn't the department be responsible for the medical bills?


Only if she was training on the clock.

If she was practicing on her own time, then no.
February 10, 2024, 07:08 PM
newtoSig765
quote:
Originally posted by gjgalligan:

Wouldn't the department be responsible for the medical bills?

You'd think so, but a couple years ago there was a cop in some Chicago suburb who suffered some on-the-job injury and ended up with a huge bill for rehab that was not covered by the town, he had to pay it. It's very wrong, but it is possible, I guess.

I can't remember if the cop here did a Go Fund Me or not.


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February 10, 2024, 07:31 PM
RR
Used them a few times. Finger stays straight drawing the pistol. Not saying it’s great but not exactly a booby trap either. Interesting about the holster failing in a way that traps the pistol. Now THAT scares me!

Interesting some of the verbiage about training being “high stress” as her job depends on it. Hope she never finds herself in a real stressful situation.
February 10, 2024, 08:05 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by RR:
Used them a few times. Finger stays straight drawing the pistol. Not saying it’s great but not exactly a booby trap either. Interesting about the holster failing in a way that traps the pistol. Now THAT scares me!

Interesting some of the verbiage about training being “high stress” as her job depends on it. Hope she never finds herself in a real stressful situation.

Yea, god forbid.




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February 10, 2024, 08:12 PM
wrightd
I have one of those. I remember the hooplah about it some years back, hadn't heard anything sense. Never understood the whole situation, but my guess is the problem is you have to press the holster release button with your trigger finger, and that initial pressing action might accidentally continue into the trigger guard, potentially pressing the trigger itself prior to any actual firing decision, leading to an accidental discharge. Is that basically it ?




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February 10, 2024, 08:21 PM
RogueJSK
Yes, basically.

The reason why you haven't heard anything about the Serpa in years is that 99% of ranges, training classes, and law enforcement agencies banned their use at least a decade ago. Not because the problem went away.

The design hasn't changed or been fixed. It's just that nearly everyone now is smart enough, or at least warned enough, to not use them.
February 10, 2024, 08:28 PM
ftttu
I’m a fan of Serpas, and I wore 3 or 4 over the years in my first agency. I’ve gone ‘round and ‘round in discussions/arguments in reference to them, and…I’m still a fan. However, I don’t recommend them due to their drawbacks. If I do, it is to an experienced shooter who I don’t consider a bonehead.

I wear a Safariland now at my current agency, and it is okay. I just can’t draw as quickly with it, and I prefer how the Serpa feels more sturdy. It is issued along with the pistol, unlike my first agency. Even so, if I did choose my gear, I’d do research on what’s out there now and not automatically run to a Serpa.

To add, it was the most predominant holster worn by the officers in my agency, and I nor anyone else had an issue. After the negative reports popped up in the media, I spoke with our range master about it, and he told me the same. That was years ago, so I have no idea what policy is now, especially after they went from .40 to 9mm.

****EDIT****

Come to think of it, I still have a right hand Serpa for an Hk P2000 just sitting in my old holsters box. The others I had went with the pistols i sold


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