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Cat Whisperer |
I'm elbow deep into my second zevtec glock build; a g19 this time with no RMR. I'm coming down the home stretch, with just the frame left, and ceracoating. I'm having the guys at Zev do a FINGER GROOVE TEDUCTION, double undercut the trigger guard, and a silica carbide finish (pretty slick, I've just learned about it recently). Anyways, the gun needs to get to zev in California. They're saying I need to ship from an ffl to them (an ffl), I could have sworn I've sent sig guns to or other gunsmithing work, and they accepted it from me, and shipped it right back to me (maybe I'm misremembering). Doing a transfer makes no sense, I'll have the gun back in a week. What do you guys say? The ffl to ffl makes no sense to me, just to have gunsmithing work done. ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | ||
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I am not an expert I only play one on TV however I believe anytime you are getting work done on the serialized part and it needs to be shipped, it needs to go through an FFL unless it is the manufacture. Someone will correct me if I am wrong. God Bless  "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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I'll bet it is a Zev requirement. I've had several worked on where I shipped. | |||
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| Just for the hell of it  |
If you have possession of the gun and it's your gun you can ship it to an FFL yourself. Now with that said I have heard of FFL that will only accept it if shipped from another FFL. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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| Cat Whisperer |
What about back to me? This adds a good bit of time and cost to the process. ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I recall shipping my pistol to Grayguns quite a few years ago and didn't have to go through an ffl. It then got shipped directly back to me. Must be their policy I imagine. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Just for the hell of it |
Is the gun yours, you bought it and you filled out a form 4473? You have taken legal possession of the gun before it was shipped out for work. If yes then they can ship it directly to you. If the gun went from whoever you purchased it from to someone to do work on it and you have yet to take legal position, then it will have to go to an FFL who will then transfer the gun to you. Again though I have heard of places that will only ship to an FFL even when it's legal to ship to the owner. FWIW I am not a dealer or anything. I have shipped firearms to have work done and had them shipped back. Haven't done it in a few years though. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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| Cat Whisperer |
Right, it's a gun I've owned for a few years. Must be their own policy (sort of annoying they presentedbit like law, even when I called then out in it l) ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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As a general rule, you don't need to use a FFL to ship a gun for gunsmithing or factory service. However, I think this might be the key:
CA likely has different rules for such things. I'm not certain about it, but I think it's certainly plausible. "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." Sherlock Holmes | |||
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From what I understand, the Tinker Bell state has such convoluted regulations that many FFL's refuse to ship anything there.  . “Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . .” – Napoleon Bonaparte http://poundsstudio.com/ | |||
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| Ammoholic |
CA is "difficult". Not only must it be shipped from an FFL, it must be shippped from an FFL who is registered with the DOJ in CA. This is not a Federal thing, this is a CA thing. :-( Hmmm, maybe I spoke too soon. If you are bored, you can read the below. Per question 2, it may be possible to ship a firearm to a CA FFL directly. It may just be a Zev Tech thing. I've shipped from CA to GGI and GGI has shipped back to me. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcfaqs#2 | |||
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For real? |
Ask Zev if it is their requirement. Thankfully I have an FFL that doesn't charge me for transfers. If it falls through, check out Cold Bore Customs in Texas. Not minority enough! | |||
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It depends on what license Grayguns or the company has for example AND what state they're in. | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
There is no basis in federal law for that. It is possible that California has come up with some horse shit. You can ship to a FFL yourself. However, there is an advantage to using a FFL. They are allowed to use the mail to ship guns to one another. So you could pay your dealer the postage for Priority Mail and a small fee, say $20 or $25, and save money over doing it FedUp's way (overnight). | |||
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| Cat Whisperer |
I'll check them out. The kicker is I get all this done for free (or next to free), which is hard to beat. ------------------------------------ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R | |||
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I was always under the impression parts with serial numbers needed to be shipped through and FFL, could be shipped from private party to FFL, but on the return shipped back to FFL. Exception being for warranty or repair work from a company factory. A 6 pack of flower power is the wager on the line here guys  | |||
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Truth Seeker |
When I ship guns for engraving, I am shipping it directly from me to the engraver who is an FFL. They do the work and ship directly back to me. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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