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Railroad apologizes for using ‘bait truck’ to lure thieves in Chicago

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August 11, 2018, 07:42 PM
SevenPlusOne
Railroad apologizes for using ‘bait truck’ to lure thieves in Chicago
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The apology is likely because Chicago is pissed they weren’t informed of it beforehand.

They're pissed they didn't get their shoes.



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August 11, 2018, 08:25 PM
Bulldog7972
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Originally posted by Black92LX:
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I understand that the police were not involved,


It says the Chicago Police Department was not involved.

I’d say the operation was done by Norfolk Southern Railroad Police.

The apology is likely because Chicago is pissed they weren’t informed of it beforehand.


I assure you that nobody in the CPD had hurt feelings if they weren’t notified. There is more than enough work to go around without this
August 11, 2018, 08:45 PM
gearhounds
Unbelievable. What an absurdity.




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August 11, 2018, 10:24 PM
CPD SIG
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
quote:
I understand that the police were not involved,


It says the Chicago Police Department was not involved.

I’d say the operation was done by Norfolk Southern Railroad Police.

The apology is likely because Chicago is pissed they weren’t informed of it beforehand.


That's Norfolk Southern jurisdiction. They have their own Police, they do their own thing.
The only time Chgo Police come into play is when they toss the bad guys in our lock-up.

Honestly, I wish there were more joint operations like this. There was literally a truck load of guns stolen not too long ago. Stings like this curtail the bullshit and develop leads on other stuff.

I still can't believe that we apologize for locking up criminals.


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August 11, 2018, 11:10 PM
Puckpilot78
Was going to post this in the Chicago shootings thread but couldn't find it.

Chicago PD is considering changing the sirens on its patrol vehicles to a recording of the National Anthem. The theory is that this will cause fleeing suspects to stop and take a knee.



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August 12, 2018, 02:00 AM
Ishootsometimes
Jim Sugary 13,000 posts and you have not been called a racist?
August 12, 2018, 02:01 AM
Ishootsometimes
Sugary
August 12, 2018, 02:01 AM
Ishootsometimes
Funny, Sugart
August 12, 2018, 03:10 AM
MRBTX
Wonder if Nike donated the shoes for the Op. I'm sure they will have an apology and a giveaway, to restore trust and all.
CPD Sig, hope you don't have too many more years to do there.
August 12, 2018, 05:38 AM
Todd Huffman
Wow. What a shithole.




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August 12, 2018, 05:45 AM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
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Originally posted by Black92LX:
quote:
I understand that the police were not involved,


It says the Chicago Police Department was not involved.

I’d say the operation was done by Norfolk Southern Railroad Police.

The apology is likely because Chicago is pissed they weren’t informed of it beforehand.


I assure you that nobody in the CPD had hurt feelings if they weren’t notified. There is more than enough work to go around without this


Has nothing to do with the workload.
I would go to say someone with some weight on their collar at CPD got pulled aside from a “community organizer” about the operation after the fact and they had no clue about it and it was a personal thing.

I’ve been at the game quite sometime and seen it many many times. I always do my best to at least chat when I am in someone elses jurisdiction or have something that likely could spill to another especially if the news is likely to get a hold of it.

Anytime someone got pissed at me it was ALWAYS a personal thing and had nothing to do with work or the outcome of the work.
It was always someone that felt they should have been notified because they think far too highly of them self.


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August 12, 2018, 06:01 AM
wcb6092
There is only one way to make this right.Bring in a trainload of Nike shoes and hand them out with free government cheese.


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August 12, 2018, 08:25 AM
Ronin1069
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Originally posted by imfrogman:
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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
Well, it could have been a truckload of watermelons...


That would be considered hunting over a baited field.



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August 12, 2018, 09:07 AM
Jim Shugart
I'm not a racist. I was trying to point out, perhaps not very clearly, that Nike shoes are the new watermelon/fried chicken. Apologies offered to anyone who was offended.



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August 12, 2018, 09:15 AM
bigeinkcmo
To me this is a bit like a person building a pit trap in their back yard to catch someone they know has been on their property. The railroad surely had some indication of problems with pilferage and wanted to catch those responsible. Setting up your own sting operation isn't too smart, regardless of intent. I doubt any PD is going to endorse that.
August 12, 2018, 09:42 AM
Palm
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Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:
To me this is a bit like a person building a pit trap in their back yard to catch someone they know has been on their property. The railroad surely had some indication of problems with pilferage and wanted to catch those responsible. Setting up your own sting operation isn't too smart, regardless of intent. I doubt any PD is going to endorse that.


Railroad police typically have full police powers. This isn't some fly by night security operation.
August 12, 2018, 09:52 AM
erj_pilot
It's a very sad day in this country when Law & Order must apologize and kowtow to criminals. JSMH...



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August 12, 2018, 09:55 AM
ulsterman
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Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:
To me this is a bit like a person building a pit trap in their back yard to catch someone they know has been on their property. The railroad surely had some indication of problems with pilferage and wanted to catch those responsible. Setting up your own sting operation isn't too smart, regardless of intent. I doubt any PD is going to endorse that.


Police everywhere use sting operations. Railroad police are fully vested police officers.
August 12, 2018, 10:01 AM
bigeinkcmo
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Originally posted by Palm:
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Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:
To me this is a bit like a person building a pit trap in their back yard to catch someone they know has been on their property. The railroad surely had some indication of problems with pilferage and wanted to catch those responsible. Setting up your own sting operation isn't too smart, regardless of intent. I doubt any PD is going to endorse that.


Railroad police typically have full police powers. This isn't some fly by night security operation.


Yeah, I do get that but it wasn't the point I was trying to make. I worked in the biz and understand that all of these large transportation companies (and many large retailer's too) have entire departments committed to security and loss prevention. Maybe comparing it to a pit trap in a back yard was a poor choice. I wasn't disputing the quality or need of the railroad policing. Rather, that the local PD isn't going to endorse it if they're not tied to the operation. At least (IMHO) why would they. What's the benefit to Chicago PD really. Stopping some Nike shoes from being ripped off out of a staged container seems like bad PR to me. No matter if it's the NS or the Chicago PD running the deal. Maybe that's just the best way to catch the bad guys I guess.
August 12, 2018, 11:08 AM
Some Shot
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