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The door guy got all his measurements, and we're still on track for door install in ~10 days.

The pebbles and incorrect grout were torn out, which took about 10 minutes, since the grout was still soft, having only been laid ~16 hours beforehand.

And then new pebbles were relaid. We're waiting until Wednesday to allow the thinset to dry, and then grouting on Wednesday with Prism grout.

The supplier is eating the ~$300 cost of the new grout and new pebbles. (And rightfully so.)
 
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Pebble Floor 2.0 is grouted in. Fingers crossed that we don't have a repeat of the cracking problems like the previous grout.

In addition to using the proper type of grout, he also spaced the pebbles together more densely this time.

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We have a seldom used stand up shower on our main level I need to re-do. It's a lovely shade of avocado green. Funny, it's actually very similar to the background color of SIGForum. looks to be about the same size as your shower.


My grandmother has a lovely Avocado Green bathroom as well. I think she still has some Harvest Gold in her kitchen too. Big Grin

My shower is nominally 4 ft. x 3 ft., but actually is more like 46.5 in. by 39 in. We actually gained several inches all around, over the previous fiberglass inset. The new tile shower seems a lot bigger, even though the actual measured difference is relatively small.

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I do know that while the kerdi board is light and pretty easy to use, your framing has to be square and plumb to have correct tile application. It is imperative that all of your framing is totally flush all the way across the tiling surface. You can not have any waning on the tiling surface. That is why I chose greenboard with the aplication of Kerdi band and kerdi sheet.


Yeah, I thought we would be using the all-in-one Kerdiboard for the walls, but they actually used separate Durock cement board covered with Kerdi sheets. The niche is Durock as well.

That was apparently the original Kerdi system, before they later came out with Kerdiboard. A separate Kerdi membrane laid over existing cement board.

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The Schluter system was meant to work in concert with all of their products. Period. I did not mix and match and had no issues through the install.


Ours is all Kerdi products, other than the underlying Durock. The floor, drain, and curb are all Kerdi brand, and there's Kerdi membrane and banding over all surfaces.
 
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Finally complete! I got the hardware installed earlier this week. The door was installed today.

Still can't shower in it until tomorrow, to give the silicone time to cure. But it's been 28 days already... What's one more day. Big Grin


Final tally was just over $5,000 total. (It's a bit more than I wanted to spend, but the wife's happy.)

$2000 in supplies: Durock, Thinset, Kerdi kit, pebbles, tile, grout, and a new shower head, cartridge, and controls. Plus a pack of Rockwool insulation.

$1800 in labor: Nearly all of which was tile, plus a little for a plumber to come reroute a section of the supply lines that had been run in front of the studs instead of through, for some reason. (I guess the guy at the initial build figured he could cut corners and then just hide it behind the shower insert.)

And $1250 for the custom frameless door, installed.

 
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That looks great.

I know they said 24 hours, but I'd wait 48, just to be absolutely certain it's properly cured. Besides, "what's one more day." Wink


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That looks great!
 
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Love everything you did except the height of the curb. Been watching some Schluter videos and I think I'll go with it when we redo our master bathroom.


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Love everything you did except the height of the curb.


We had originally planned to go with a shorter curb of ~2". I don't recall why the tile guy recommended going taller. (The wife was supervising on that day.) It's now ~6".

It may have had to do with looking better with the 4x8 and 4x12 tiles we used, and/or it was probably so that it would match/clear the bathroom's wooden baseboards that run up to the curb on either side. You can see a sliver of the baseboard in the bottom right of the above photo, and more of it in the doorless photo in my 1/20/19 post about 2/3rds the way down Page 2.

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I know they said 24 hours, but I'd wait 48, just to be absolutely certain it's properly cured. Besides, "what's one more day." Wink


Is that a professional recommendation, or are you just giving me shit? Wink
 
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Dry times can take a lot longer depending on the temperature of the concrete slab, so it never hurts to wait longer. While it feels dry to the touch, stepping on it with 200 lbs can be a different story.

I think it came out very nice. The floor is a perfect contrast to the tile and really makes it pop.
 
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Love everything you did except the height of the curb.


We had originally planned to go with a shorter curb of ~2". I don't recall why the tile guy recommended going taller. (The wife was supervising on that day.) It's now ~6".

It may have had to do with looking better with the 4x8 and 4x12 tiles we used, and/or it was probably so that it would match/clear the bathroom's wooden baseboards that run up to the curb on either side. You can see a sliver of the baseboard in the bottom right of the above photo, and more of it in the doorless photo in my 1/20/19 post about 2/3rds the way down Page 2.

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I know they said 24 hours, but I'd wait 48, just to be absolutely certain it's properly cured. Besides, "what's one more day." Wink


Is that a professional recommendation, or are you just giving me shit? Wink
Only a little bit of giving you crap. Cool

I'm no pro when it comes to the caulking, and have been out of the concrete and mortar game for a very long time, but additional curing time, past the minimums, is usually a very good thing. For example, I've seen people say to wait 3 days min, to use a concrete slab, but absent a chemical acclerant, concrete doesn't acheive 98% compressive strength for 7 days, and that is under ideal conditions. So I would never use a slab at 3 days. Same with the caulking, after all this time and money, I'd give it an extra day to cure.

I recognize it sucks waiting extra time, as I'm the type of person that hates to wait a full minute for super glue to bond!


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That looks good. I am putting off having to do my master bath/shower as I am trying to decide what/how to do it. I definitely like the Schluter to work with.
 
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Dry times can take a lot longer depending on the temperature of the concrete slab, so it never hurts to wait longer. While it feels dry to the touch, stepping on it with 200 lbs can be a different story.


Luckily, it's not anything to do with the floor or walls that we're waiting on to dry. The floor's been done for 10 days now, and the walls for 13 days.

It's just the bead of silicone caulk installed around the glass door assembly yesterday morning that is curing.

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I think it came out very nice. The floor is a perfect contrast to the tile and really makes it pop.


Thanks. The brownish/greyish/tanish color of the pebbles on the shower floor also match the color of the large tiles on the floor of the rest of the bathroom, so it adds some different texture but carries over the same color scheme.

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I'm no pro when it comes to the caulking, and have been out of the concrete and mortar game for a very long time, but additional curing time, past the minimums, is usually a very good thing.


Yeah. The tube of silicone says it's waterproof in 8 hours, and able to be touched and cleaned in 24 hours. The installers recommended 24 hours. But I agree that it couldn't hurt to wait 48 hours. That's just one more shower in the guest bathtub. Cool
 
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I recognize it sucks waiting extra time, as I'm the type of person that hates to wait a full minute for super glue to bond!
Fastcap 2p-10. Try it.


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Not sure how I missed this thread. Nice shower. I’ll be needing a glass shower door in my new house. I had no idea what it would cost. Now I know. Thanks.




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Very nice! Been reading this thread as I have been getting 1200 sq feet of oak floor redone. My redo didn't go flawlessly either. Nature of the beast I guess.
 
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