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Federal mandated PW changes
April 09, 2025, 05:31 PM
Pipe SmokerFederal mandated PW changes
I have a California income tax account. I have to use it to pay my California income taxes via EFT or suffer a 2% penalty if I pay by check.
And I’m required to change the account PW at least once a year. A royal PITA, and hazardous. Too easy to screw up the change. And the yearly change is totally unnecessary – I have a long, strong PW using multiple character sets generated by my PW manager.
California claims that the Feds require that yearly change. That seems odd – I have two IRS accounts and have used the same long, strong PW for years..
I’m not complaining about the mandate to pay via EFT. It’s a good method – safe, instantaneous and convenient. But I am complaining about the yearly PW charge requirement. Grumble
Serious about crackers. April 09, 2025, 05:34 PM
229DAKIt's California - don't argue with the fools.
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April 09, 2025, 05:35 PM
smschulzThere's worse things than changing a PW.
April 09, 2025, 05:52 PM
Anushquote:
California claims that the Feds require that yearly change.
Complete BS as I file income taxes in several states & sales taxes in about 25 states. A few require PW changes but most do not. I file payroll taxes in IRS's EFTPS for 5 companies and have never changed passwords. Many states increased security this year & have increased my sales tax filing time about 10%.
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April 09, 2025, 07:16 PM
12131quote:
I’m required to change the account PW at least once a year. A royal PITA... I am complaining about the yearly PW charge requirement.
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Originally posted by smschulz:
There's worse things than changing a PW.
Yeah, what is the big deal? I'm required to change PW at work every quarter.
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April 10, 2025, 01:50 PM
gjgalliganBefore I retired (GM) I had to change my password every month.
Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
April 10, 2025, 04:53 PM
Rey HRHI doubt the Federal is forcing the PW change. They’re using id.me or login.gov
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
April 10, 2025, 05:32 PM
sigmonkeyPROMPT: Please enter your new password.
USER: cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must be more than 8 characters.
USER: boiled cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must contain 1 numerical character.
USER: 1 boiled cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot have blank spaces.
USER: 50fuckingboiledcabbages
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must contain at least one uppercase character.
USER: 50FUCKINGboiledcabbages
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot use more than one uppercase character consecutively.
USER: 50FuckingBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow!
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot contain punctuation.
USER : IWillHuntYouDown50FuckingBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow
PROMPT: Sorry, that password is already in use.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! April 10, 2025, 05:43 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I doubt the Federal is forcing the PW change. They’re using id.me or login.gov
I don’t necessarily believe California’s claim that it’s a Federal mandate that requires my California EFT account PW to be changed animally. But whatever the reason, I do have to change that PW annually or I lose access to my account.
You’re wrong in stating “They’re using id.me or login.gov”. Neither is required to login to my California EFT account. Just my own PW and username is required. I paid my California income taxes just this morning.
Serious about crackers. April 10, 2025, 06:35 PM
jbcummingsWe REALLY NEED a like button for some of Monkey’s posts.
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April 10, 2025, 07:54 PM
ZSMICHAELquote:
I don’t necessarily believe California’s claim that it’s a Federal mandate that requires my California EFT account PW to be changed animally. But whatever the reason, I do have to change that PW annually or I lose access to my account.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You should count your blessings most insurance company websites in addtion to Medicare and Medicaid require monthly changes AND two factor authentication. You fail to log in and you wait forever in a long line to beg forgiveness and be given another try.
Tricare had this all in place until someone broke in and stole all the hard drives which contained social security numbers of thousands members of our military.
April 10, 2025, 08:21 PM
229DAKquote:
You’re wrong in stating “They’re using id.me or login.gov”. Neither is required to login to my California EFT account.
I think he meant the feds require id.me or login.gov, not California.
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“A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.”
-- Mark Twain, 1902
April 10, 2025, 08:29 PM
David Leequote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
PROMPT: Please enter your new password.
USER: cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must be more than 8 characters.
USER: boiled cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must contain 1 numerical character.
USER: 1 boiled cabbage
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot have blank spaces.
USER: 50fuckingboiledcabbages
PROMPT: Sorry, the password must contain at least one uppercase character.
USER: 50FUCKINGboiledcabbages
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot use more than one uppercase character consecutively.
USER: 50FuckingBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow!
PROMPT: Sorry, the password cannot contain punctuation.
USER : IWillHuntYouDown50FuckingBoiledCabbagesYouStupidIdiotGiveMeAccessNow
PROMPT: Sorry, that password is already in use.
Excellent Sigmonkey..
April 11, 2025, 01:41 PM
Rey HRHquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I doubt the Federal is forcing the PW change. They’re using id.me or login.gov
I don’t necessarily believe California’s claim that it’s a Federal mandate that requires my California EFT account PW to be changed animally. But whatever the reason, I do have to change that PW annually or I lose access to my account.
You’re wrong in stating “They’re using id.me or login.gov”. Neither is required to login to my California EFT account. Just my own PW and username is required. I paid my California income taxes just this morning.
I guess I wasn't clear. "They're" is suppose to refer to the "Federal" (government) mentioned in the immediately preceding sentence. I wouldn't doubt what you're saying about your California account; it wouldn't make sense to me that a state government would use the access system as the federal because, you know... bureaucrats. Except maybe for the ACA system as that's under the Federal umbrella.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
April 11, 2025, 01:48 PM
Rey HRHquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
You should count your blessings most insurance company websites in addtion to Medicare and Medicaid require monthly changes AND two factor authentication. You fail to log in and you wait forever in a long line to beg forgiveness and be given another try.
I have to check you on Medicare. I log on to Medicare every month to download my claims and I've not had to change my password ever since I set up my account in 2022. I do have to enter a code they text to me and I think it's because I clear cookies and cache every month as well.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
April 11, 2025, 02:26 PM
ZSMICHAELSorry talking about the doctor side, I should have been clearer.