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Hard not to put the forbidden expletive in the title.

I’ve been hearing people on the news trying to get Asians to rise up against—white supremacy! No, not Harvard and other universities that clearly discriminate against Asian-Americans. Instead they’re using the phony “Anti-Asian” attack by a very disturbed white guy on massage parlors as an example of “attacks on Asians”. Forget that at least two of the eight killed were not Asian, and even Christopher Wray says there was no racial animus.

Latest is a poor professor at University of San Diego who criticized China—yes, the Communist government of Communist China—for their behavior in the WuHu Flu. Asian law students claim his statements are anti-ethnic Chinese.

Here’s a good explanation:
Link: Legal Insurrection

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The Right Coast Blog Post

Prof. Smith has run the The Right Coast blog for as long as I can remember. The blog is a traditional blog, mostly reprinting excerpts of news stories packaged with a little commentary added. Because Prof. Smith is viewed as right-of-center, he is watched. I’m pretty sure there was some prior kerfuffle involving his blog, though I can’t find a link to it. There are students who have spent a lot of time scrutinizing his writings.

On March 10, 2021, Prof. Smith ran this post excerpting a Wall Street Journal article, Wuhan Lab Theory a Dark Cloud on China – WSJ (emphasis added):

Wuhan Lab Theory a Dark Cloud on China – WSJ
By Tom Smith

Alas, the World Health Organization mission is turning into a case of disaster foretold. A credible inquiry requires China’s full cooperation, not just cooperation with those lines of inquiry that are consistent with its own propaganda. And couldn’t somebody have put Peter Daszak, team member from New York City’s EcoHealth Alliance, under permanent mouth quarantine?

To insist that human encroachment on nature is the great risk tells us nothing about what happened in this particular case. To insist, as he did on NPR, that China’s manhandling of the delegation with greeters in full hazmat garb, its forcing of the visitors into 14-day quarantine, was merely testament to China’s Covid rigor overlooks another possibility: China was seeking to intimidate and dominate the investigators because of the colossal importance it places on controlling the virus narrative.

via www.wsj.com

If you believe that the coronavirus did not escape from the lab in Wuhan, you have to at least consider that you are an idiot who is swallowing whole a lot of Chinese cock swaddle. At least Peter Daszak has good personal and financial reasons, not to mention reasons of career preservation, for advancing what he must know is a facially implausible thesis. But whatever. Go Science!

UPDATE: It appears that some people are interpreting my reference to “Chinese cock swaddle,” as a reference to an ethnic group. That is a misinterpretation. To be clear, I was referring to the Chinese government.

Was the pejorative term “Chinese cock swaddle” a smear of the Chinese people as an ethnic group, rather than the Chinese government? There is no plausible claim that Prof. Smith was disparaging Chinese people as an ethnic group, as UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh points out through a plain reading of the text:

In context, it seems clear that the post’s reference to “Chinese” is indeed a reference to the Chinese government, not to people of Chinese extraction….

Even without the UPDATE, it’s clear that the reference to “Chinese cock swaddle” must be a reference to the government of China, not to Chinese-Americans or to people of Chinese extraction. The title of the post is about China, and the quote refers four times to China (“China’s full cooperation,” “China’s manhandling of the delegation,” “China’s Covid rigor,” “China was seeking”). Though “Chinese” sometimes refers to the government, sometimes to the nation, and sometimes to the ethnic group, here the referent is clear, and it isn’t to Chinese-Americans or to USD law students from China or anything like that….

Yet I stress again that the blog post is not “disparaging language” or “epithets, derogatory comments, or slurs based on race or national origin” towards any “members of the [USD] community” (students, faculty, or staff). It is disparaging language towards China, in context referring to the government of China.

Student Petition for Termination

There does not appear to have been any reaction or complaint immediately after the blog post was published. Just in the past couple of days, however, law school students launched into a campaign to get Prof. Smith fired over the comment.

The Asian Pacific American Law Students Association (APALSA) delivered a lengthy, heavily footnoted demand letter (pdf.) to Prof. Smith dated March 19, 2021, which requested “an Apology on Behalf of All the Affinity Groups You Have Harmed”:

You are now likely aware of the tremendous amount of reaction and response that this post has generated from the student body, our school’s various organizations, our school’s alumni, and the larger community of San Diego. We are extremely hurt by your words. We want this letter to educate you on how your words have a greater, adverse impact on your own students at USD and the community at large. Specifically, we are writing to express the depth of hurt and disappointment you caused to the Asian Pacific Islander (API) community….

Your blog post promoting a conspiracy theory that COVID-19 originated in a lab from Wuhan, China, has detrimental consequences for students you teach and beyond. Based on your update to the blog post[1], you still have not grasped the severity of the issue or its wider implications for the community that you inhabit. At this point, the origins of COVID-19 are still largely speculative. We are not here to say that any conclusion about the origins of COVID-19 is right or wrong. That deflects from the point. The point is that your speculation of COVID-19 originating from a lab in China only perpetuates an “us versus them” mentality that negatively impacts the API community….

We came to law school hoping we could arm ourselves against such indignities, and yet we are asked to endure them from our own professors under the guise of academic and scholarly debate….

Please consider your position as a community leader who represents the law school. Please consider the diverse students at USD Law and how unsafe they may feel learning from you. Please recognize the difference between intent versus impact. We recognize it may not have been your intent to cause harm, but you did. Take ownership, listen, learn, and do better. All law students are required to take an oath of professionalism prior to law school and our professors must be held to the same standard….

While APALSA did not call for Prof. Smith’s termination in the letter, a student petition does just that. It reads:

Petition for USD School of Law to Terminate Contract with Professor Tom Smith

To the Leadership at the University of San Diego and the School of Law,

The legal field demands from its professionals an ethical obligation to comply with the requirements and standards of both their institution and the greater field of law. Law professors are subject to the regulations of the institutions at which they teach and to professional guidelines that are more generally applicable to attorneys as a whole. Their responsibilities extend beyond the classroom. We as future legal professionals recognize our ethical obligation to understand how our words and our actions will reflect upon our profession, and the institutions we represent.

Law professors are charged with molding the next generation of attorneys, imparting a strong ethical code, and abiding by the same Oath of Professionalism every USD Law student is asked to adhere to on our first day of law school. However, it seems that USD Law has decided students must be held to a higher standard than the professors they employ to teach.


More at the link for those interested.


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Was on the blower with a good friend the other day whose wife is a Korean immigrant. He asked her what she thought of the current situation and then held the phone up for me to listen. A constant stream of swear words in both English and Korean could be heard. She was very animated that it was all BS.
 
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At least in ca, this shows that Asian Americans who grew up here are really just simple Americans that can be just as fucked and woke as any other American. Asians are not immune from the idiocy infecting the country.




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Here in the SF Bay Area, home to arguably the largest Asian population in the country, its a daily news update with another attack; firearms & self-defense classes are off the chart. Some of these attacks are racially motivated, the majority are simply career criminals praying on vulnerable elderly who've been given multiple chances at freedom by the 'justice system'. The news, as we've seen nationally, refuse until they can't, publish/reveal whom the attackers are and even then, its very brief and quickly moved-on...the vast majority of attackers, are black. Minorities praying on minorities.

The Asians who've latched onto the Lefty-Train, are no different than any other group, the Left is good at drumming up grievance and victimhood. The solidarity rallies and public forums are simply window dressing to placate the political machine and it makes for good images for the news. City officials have all but encouraged 'neighborhood watch groups', never mind they continue the drumbeat of defunding the police. Roll Eyes
 
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Not surprisingly, though never reported by the media, racial attacks are almost exclusively itra-race (black on black, white on white, etc). Asians however are the lone exception, most of their attacks are by blacks. Only in America can the media and politicians attempt to link mostly black on Asian violence to "white supremacy" and/or President Trump's statements on China and covid.

https://www.amren.com/features...me-who-attacks-whom/

This site breaks down data from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) and gives a pretty clear picture of how violent crime breaks down by race.



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Please realize that the "Asians" that the left feel need "protecting" are from countries like Syria, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, and Iraq. It isn't about Koreans, Japanese, Vietnamese, or Chinese, although they have no problem with exploiting these populations for their purposes. It is more a pro-Muslim, anti-Israel thing than fairness-for-all. Stolen from the leftist apologists for the justifiable outrage of citizens against "Asian"-led grooming gang activity and gang rapes in Great Britain.
 
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Perception can become reality. Most of the attacks have come from blacks but the whole white supremacy thing is much better for the left.

In 2020 there was 31 racially motivated attacks on Asians and 660+ on Jewish people. I'm pretty sure Jewish people are not cowering in their homes scared to death.

They need to start following Lauren Chen.
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We don’t have a large Asian community where I am at. Of the people of Asian decent a majority are Vietnamese w/ some Thai and Laotian sprinkled in. The vast majority of the Vietnamese are conservative.
 
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We don’t have a large Asian community where I am at. Of the people of Asian decent a majority are Vietnamese w/ some Thai and Laotian sprinkled in. The vast majority of the Vietnamese are conservative.


Leaving your life behind to escape communism will do that to you.
 
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We don’t have a large Asian community where I am at. Of the people of Asian decent a majority are Vietnamese w/ some Thai and Laotian sprinkled in. The vast majority of the Vietnamese are conservative.
Leaving your life behind to escape communism will do that to you.
I wish that somebody would explain that to my Congress-slut, Stephanie Murphy. Born in Ho Chi Minh City, came here, elected to Congress by the moronic voters in Florida's seventh congressional district (Northern Orange County, and Seminole County -- Orlando and suburbs), and is trying very hard to make the U.S.A. look like the communist country that she left.



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In 2020 there was 31 racially motivated attacks on Asians and 660+ on Jewish people. I'm pretty sure Jewish people are not cowering in their homes scared to death.

Most Asians, particularly the older generations are loath to report any issues to the authorities, much of it stems from not wanting to be a burden and making things bigger than they want them to be. Industrious and hard working, virtues that while admirable, sometimes get the best of people, even in the case of robbery, intimidation, even assault, thus crime statistics against Asian tend to be under reported.
 
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Dennis Prager reported the other day on his show that "Racist Attacks" on Asians (whoever keeps THAT statistic) had risen 150% in 2020 over 2019. Yeah...the real numbers:

2019 incidents - 49
2020 incidents - 122.5

OMFG!!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!! Roll Eyes GMAFB!!

Let's not address racist attacks on Jews in this country. Current idiots in power are THE most racist, antisemitic group on the face of the planet.



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Asians tend to vote Democrat because most of them gather in big metropolitan areas steeped in liberalism and "Republicans bad, Democrats good" mantra.

Most of the criminal violence perpetuated against Asians are by blacks. But to make this known, it destroys one of the myths of systemic institutionalized racism in America.


I like this article: Dear White Liberals: Asians Aren’t Your Pawns


By K. Lee

I had a conversation with my brother in Oregon, last night. Besides the usual family matters, he brought up a call he received from a ‘friend.’ The friend wanted to check on my brother and the family amidst rising violence toward Asian Americans. While my brother appreciated the gesture, he told his friend that it wasn’t necessary. The friend said he had been concerned about all the anti-Asian violence ever since Trump and the “China” virus rhetoric.

The friend knows my brother is a staunch conservative, so my brother got irritated. He asked the dude, what’s Trump got to do with the Georgia shootings and where was his phone call last year? The friend said he didn’t get what my brother was getting at. My brother replied that there were over 3,800 incidents of anti-Asian violence last year, yet you didn’t check on us. The friend said he didn’t know. My brother said, of course not—because no one besides us Asians cared. But now that you see a perp is a white male from the South, you start to care. You have to make this about YOU making a political statement rather than really caring about us, the Asian Americans.

My brother is correct. How can we trust and believe your sentiments when you didn’t care last year when we pleaded for assistance? The district attorneys in the Bay area and NYC acted blind to our plight. The national mainstream media didn’t lend us their ear nor their voice because the narrative didn’t fit.

But, now, you care.

You use our victimhood, turning it into your political gains—whether to infringe on the 2A or keep portraying Trump as that boogeyman. You sided with the rich NBA players over the freedom fighters of Hong Kong. You sided with Disney and NIKE over the lives and the dignity of the Uighurs in western China. You praised Antifa while they harassed and doxxed a gay Asian journalist. You sided with the rioters and looters that stole, robbed, and burned down our shops and businesses all last summer.

Yesterday, we found out the killer in the Georgia shooting rampage is a disturbed young man who is an Asian fetishist. Not exactly the perp that my brother’s friend wished for. I find it twisted and sick that there are a lot of white folks who get a ‘hard on’ for minorities’ victimhood. It’s as reprehensible as someone who has an Asian sexual fetish. Which is confusing—because one moment we are categorized with the ‘Whites’ when we are applying for colleges and universities and we don’t get the same affirmative action benefits of other POC when applying for a job— yet we are marginalized victims again, to serve your political purpose.

So we are just pawns.

My brother told his ‘friend,’ or his ‘ally,’ to snap out of trying to be the white savior. It was clear to my brother that the phone call was about the dude’s self righteousness and it was more self-serving than a true concern for the welfare and well-being of our family or any other Asians. My apologies, if my brother and I and some of our fellow Asians respond with indignation.

You’ve written us off. You’ve ignored us. And you didn’t care for so long. But, now, you tell us you care? Don’t play us for fools. We see you for the hypocritical players that you are.



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We don’t have a large Asian community where I am at. Of the people of Asian decent a majority are Vietnamese w/ some Thai and Laotian sprinkled in. The vast majority of the Vietnamese are conservative.


Leaving your life behind to escape communism will do that to you.


I am sure you are correct.
 
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^^^ Tell that to my relatives who live in Kali. I have a very large extended family, most of them living there, and most are lefties. Go figure.


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Back in the 80's we called East and Southeast Asian people "oriental". My stepmother since the early 80's was from the Philippines and I remember that this term was not considered offensive to her. Then by the late 80's "Asian" became the proper word for East and SE Asians, so most people think of Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, when they think "Asian".

But now, people from India are self identifying as "Asian" on the census and for EEOC purposes. Asia natively includes just about every variety of human being except Africans. The Middle East (Asia Minor), Iran, Israel, Turkey, Siberia, India, Pakistan, all the other -istans, Burma, Mogolia, and many other countries have enormous diversity, such that the generic term "Asian" if applied to all of Asia is meaningless. Similar to how "African-American" includes Egyptians and other North Africans that are not black, despite what is implied by the term.

So if Middle Easterners that are actually "white" by definition of the census and civil rights law are calling themselves Asian to maximize their victimhood, it's absurd.

I work with a lot of East and Southeast Asians, spent a lot of time in China and South Korea, some time in Japan, and have lots of friendships. Lots of different cultures and political beliefs, and not one big block. The cultures can be very socially conservative, and the Koreans and Vietnamese that fought or escaped communism are more politically conservative. Chinese come from a communist country so they may or may not accept similar things here. But overall, the cultures are more collectivist in nature, and stress blending in with the majority, so that does lend itself to collectivist thinking as espoused by the democrats, versus true individual liberty.

One Chinese person that recently was able to leave the US and go home to Shanghai sent a "No Asian Hate" meme the other day, then added "I know not you". I assumed it was about Atlanta, but she had't heard and it was just a general thing about the reported rise in hate crimes. I asked her who was committing crimes and violence against Asians and she thought it was far right racists riled up by Trump's "China Virus" comments. I told her the actual numbers about black on Asian crime being the most common and that even though some ignorant people may blame Asians for the virus and say dumb things or give dirty looks, the media is lying to her. Chinese understand media lies because that's what they hear all the time in China.

The media narrative to condemn all bad things as "white supremacy" and ignore actual facts is relentless now. But most Asians I know will look at the data and understand the truth, and not try to argue against it. But most of those people grew up in Asia and don't have any sense of "systemic guilt" Americans are supposed to have.

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The Asians (Koreans and Chinese) I know in Tucson can well take care of themselves. Hard working and they won't take shit from anyone.


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They are cashing in. Simple. What is the forbidden word the OP was referring to?


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Just more votes the politicians are pandering to. Why Jews and Asians vote dem is beyond me. The dems are against those groups and now trying to turn the Asians against whites.

I don't have FB but now I'm reading articles on LinkedIn about Asians coming out saying they were attacked and using shitty catch phrases such as "systemic racism" and "stop Asian hate" blah blah blah when Asians don't even realize the dems are the ones oppressing them with racist school admission policies. But now that the dems see there's a voting block to pander to, they're going for it. Never let a crisis go to waste. Roll Eyes

And since there are so many stupid people who base their beliefs on the "news" those Asians will vote dem because they've been told it's Trump's fault and Republicans are racist even without proof.


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Areas with larger Asian communities may be different, but I haven't seen a single instance of local anti-Asian sentiment reported on any of our local tv stations.

What I have seen on them is daily coverage of white whack jobs, who obviously don't have anything to do but search for shit to complain about, parading around in front of cameras, protesting anti-asian violence.


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