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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Do this guy killed a politician

Big whoop

Was he targeted because he was a politician or was it random?

And where is the terrified angle?

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Complete BS with regards to policy by the police. They knew who the suspect was, and just like allowing EMS into crime scenes, it’s easy to exclude them if the suspect is unknown, you take shoe impressions or photos of shoes and prints to exclude them when their prints show up at the scene.



Ive let parents into a crime scene when junior is bleeding out at the scene. And I’ve had an episcopal priest into a crime scene to give last rights while a man was dying on the street.(and it wasn’t even his parishioner, he was literally driving by).

The UK and the US share some history - but that is about it when it comes to freedoms, liberty and justice.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:

It has nothing to do with being 'the wrong religion'. Your ignorance of the UK, where there is, like the USA, complete freedom of religion, is woeful.

The words 'nobody is allowed on the crime scene' mean exactly that. How is that so hard to comprehend?

'However, before your hair really catches on fire, you should have taken the trouble to note that the Essex police actions did NOT meet with much support, although no doubt you might have been happier if they had.

Essex Police’s excuse is all too typical of the mix of officiousness, insensitivity, and “computer says no” bureaucratic intransigence which characterises our modern police.

Here is the official statement provided to Breitbart London by Essex Police:

As with any police incident, it is of the utmost importance that we preserve the integrity of a crime scene and allow emergency services to tend to those in need.

A cordon is put in place to secure and prevent contamination of the area. Access into a scene is at the discretion of the investigating officers. This is a fundamental part of any investigation to ensure the best possible chance of securing justice for any victim and their family. A cordon can also be used to restrict an area for emergency services to administer potentially life-saving medical treatment, in as much privacy as possible and to allow officers to confirm that an area is safe to enter.

Yeah, we get all that. You’re the police and everything you do is right even when it’s wrong because you’re the police.

But where does that leave the broader fabric that you, the police, are there supposedly to protect?

Sir David Amess was a devout Roman Catholic. As Roman Catholic convert (and former Chaplain to the Queen) Gavin Ashenden explains:

Last Rites are crucial for faithful Catholics because these are the final prayers and blessings the dying will receive before going to heaven. The administration of the Last Rites is a final cleansing, which prepares the dying to enter heaven rather than hell, as they have denounced their sinful nature.

This may seem so much irrelevant frippery to a non-believer. But to a practising Catholic it is absolutely key. We live, or used to live, in a society which protected and indeed cherished freedom of religious expression. In war and peace there are countless examples of priests putting themselves in the way of danger in order to reach the dying faithful at their moment of need.

What Essex Police are doing here is declaring that their bureaucratic procedure should take precedence over this because, effectively, as far as they are concerned, such articles of faith have no place in the modern world.

And it’s really no excuse, as some of the police’s defenders on social media are saying, that the extreme circumstances of cordoning a murder scene somehow justify denying a priest access to a dying believer, any more than they would justify denying access to paramedics.

Death is always an extreme circumstance. That is the point.'

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Originally posted by tacfoley:


Please take it from me that politicians of any hue here in UK do NOT go around inciting their adherents to slaughter members of the opposition. Politics here tends to be more genteel that that, although we DID have one lady MP shot, stabbed and killed by a disgruntled person a few years back.

Read here - At 12:53 pm BST on Thursday, 16 June 2016, local MP Jo Cox was fatally shot and stabbed outside a library in Birstall, West Yorkshire, where she was about to hold a constituency surgery at 1:00 pm. According to eyewitnesses, she was shot three times—once near the head—and stabbed multiple times. A 77-year-old local man, Bernard Kenny, was stabbed in the stomach while trying to fend off her attacker. Initial reports indicated that the attacker, Thomas Mair, a 52-year-old Batley and Spen constituent and a white supremacist who was obsessed with nazis and apartheid-era South Africa and with links to the US-based neo-Nazi group National Alliance, shouted "Britain first" as he attacked. He received a whole life prison sentence - it means what it reads like.

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For a simple comment you called a man ignorant and then went on to prove his comment to be true. In the eyes of the Essex police, it would seem any religion is the wrong religion and therefore denying a dying man his religious freedom is acceptable.