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Originally posted by irreverent:

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
So what do y’all suggest be used for experiments?

Often, the research animals are strays, or at least they were.

Do y’all have any conception of how much progress has been made with research animals?

Typically, research animals are purpose bred, carefully selected, and NOT used without an ethics oversight committee justifying the need for their use in that particular research project. There are many entities overseeing the use of animals in research in the states, and the NIH would not condone this. I agree with sn3guppy.. I find it very hard to believe this story.

agree. if you have ever had ANY kind of advanced medical treatment, therapy, device etc there is a good chance animal research of some kind was involved at some point.

give you an example -- ever heard of a limb or organ transplant ? does anyone think they were first 'tried out' with a human patient without many attempts using animals to achieve success??

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So many people WANT it to be true, though. It’s merely confirmation bias of their hatred of Fauci. He lives rent free in the minds of so many.

Largely, the quicker you simply ignore him, the better off you’ll be.

Beagles are the preferred breed for dog animal testing. They are the most resistant to pain and have the least tendency to lash out at those causing them pain. That fact breaks my heart.

My wife and I help run a beagle rescue in Tampa Bag, and it is the most fulfilling work that I’ve ever done.

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Originally posted by ChuckWall:
This, however, can do what a 100 Rand Pauls can't. People aren't going to go along with this torturing dogs.

Except the story is absolute bullshit.

So other than it being a lie, and making for good emotional tear-jerking imagination, it's solid.

Alternate facts. Who cares if it's true...right?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Except the story is absolute bullshit.

So other than it being a lie, and making for good emotional tear-jerking imagination, it's solid.

Alternate facts. Who cares if it's true...right?

Guess I must be developing liberal tendencies in some areas because I really don't care if the story is true or not so long as it sinks Fauci (which it likely won't). Ends justify the means and all that. That little bastard needs to go, and I personally no longer care what precipitates his departure.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by ChuckWall:
This, however, can do what a 100 Rand Pauls can't. People aren't going to go along with this torturing dogs.

Except the story is absolute bullshit.

So other than it being a lie, and making for good emotional tear-jerking imagination, it's solid.

Alternate facts. Who cares if it's true...right?

Just curious, how are you so certain this story is untrue or true?

We’re living in an age where reporting is largely garbage. I personally don’t know what to think, other than skepticism of people who are sure of what they read.

I can see Russia from my front porch...

Just inject some bleach...

1/6/21 insurrection was worse than 9/11...

fight fire with fire

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Except the story is absolute bullshit.

So other than it being a lie, and making for good emotional tear-jerking imagination, it's solid.

Alternate facts. Who cares if it's true...right?

Guess I must be developing liberal tendencies in some areas because I really don't care if the story is true or not so long as it sinks Fauci (which it likely won't). Ends justify the means and all that. That little bastard needs to go, and I personally no longer care what precipitates his departure.

You're clearly no better than a liberal.

Most of us here want Fauci gone. I just prefer to see the manner of his on-doing to be legit and final.

I'm tired of being 'better' than the leftist...I want to win. Fauci is a nauseating little cuckold who couldn't come up with any tactics to fight the pandemic besides medical oligarchy...lets definitely paint him as a puppy abuser.

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Just curious, how are you so certain this story is untrue or true?

Yeah... more and more has come out about Fauci funding the research that was responsible for unleashing Covid on the world.
https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...rt-researcher-claims

What makes you SO CERTAIN that he wouldn't fund some experiments on puppies?

Anthony Fauci and NIH Funded Grotesque Research on Beagle Puppies

I have not wanted to outline this story because it is just grotesque in the extreme. However, as with all things we do not wish to know about, I guess the seriousness of the issue requires us to know in order to stop it. Let us hope it has already stopped. [Daily Mail has more details] Evil, thy name is….

(New York Post) Dr. Anthony Fauci is facing calls from a bipartisan group of legislators to respond to allegations that his National Institutes of Health division provided a grant to a lab in Tunisia to torture and kill dozens of beagle puppies for twisted scientific experiments.

In a letter to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace and 23 colleagues addressed their “grave concerns about reports of costly, cruel, and unnecessary taxpayer-funded experiments on dogs.”

“According to documents obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request by taxpayer watchdog group White Coat Waste Project, and subsequent media coverage from October 2018 until February 2019, NIAID spent $1.68 million in taxpayer funds on drug tests involving 44 beagle puppies,” the letter on Thursday reads.

The White Coat Waste Project report claimed that the researchers locked the dogs in cages with hungry sandflies so that the insects could eat them alive. (read more)
https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/...d-puppy-experiments/

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
~ Mahatma Gandhi

In a twisted way, thus the mindset of those pushing an experimental vaccine is explained.

https://theconservativetreehou...h-on-beagle-puppies/

I couldn't stand Fauci and his smug, smarmy attitude since he became the mouthpiece at the beginning of the pandemic.

Interesting that a story like this, true or otherwise, it what it takes for everyone else in this country to despise him also.

I too dislike Fauci. I'm not the brightest person in the room here but I have been asking how does he seem to outrank/trump the CDC and the Surgeon General in everything? I've heard various reasons for this but for one person he seems to wield a helluva lot of power and I'm not buying any of it.

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Originally posted by shovelhead:
I too dislike Fauci. I'm not the brightest person in the room here but I have been asking how does he seem to outrank/trump the CDC and the Surgeon General in everything? I've heard various reasons for this but for one person he seems to wield a helluva lot of power and I'm not buying any of it.

He's not outranking them anything. They're in it together regarding this plandemic.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
What makes you SO CERTAIN that he wouldn't fund some experiments on puppies?

That's not the way that making an allegation works: it's on the accuser to provide evidence of the claim, and extraordinary allegations require extraordinary proof. I'm not seeing it.

As someone once said - "fake news."

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Originally posted by kidcop:

As someone once said - "fake news."

If this is in fact the case, does this mean that 'they' are done with him?

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

You're clearly no better than a liberal.

bigdeal is talking about fighting fire with fire. Keep sitting on your high horse hoping that principals and morals (both of which everyone in control of our society lacks and cares not of) will save the day. If you haven't noticed we're getting our dicks kicked in. Liberals own the media, social media, politicians, Government alphabet agencies, big tech and all levels of education.

The ends justify the means. There's nothing more poetic than the very same method of "guilty in the eyes of public opinion" comes back to bite them in the ass. They made their bed. Let them sleep in it. On that note, I can't wait until the next generation of even bigger pussies cancel their parents. It's going to be glorious to watch.

If you can sleep well with 'ends justify the means,' that's your problem.

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Originally posted by kidcop:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
What makes you SO CERTAIN that he wouldn't fund some experiments on puppies?

That's not the way that making an allegation works: it's on the accuser to provide evidence of the claim, and extraordinary allegations require extraordinary proof. I'm not seeing it.

As someone once said - "fake news."

So... Dr. Fauci is beyond reproach and should not be questioned about this?

Dr. Anthony Fauci is facing calls from a bipartisan group of legislators to respond to allegations that his National Institutes of Health division provided a grant to a lab in Tunisia to torture and kill dozens of beagle puppies for twisted scientific experiments.

In a letter to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace and 23 colleagues addressed their “grave concerns about reports of costly, cruel, and unnecessary taxpayer-funded experiments on dogs.”

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
If you can sleep well with 'ends justify the means,' that's your problem.

Not a problem because I'm a realist who knows we're not going to make progress doing everything by your high moral standards.