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Have an American Eagle Luger that you don't need anymore? You can trade it in for a gift card in San Diego.



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I've often wondered the legality of going to one of these cash in hand and stand outside the event to get a chance to look over what folks are bringing and maybe offer to buy something for slightly more than the program.


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I've often wondered the legality of going to one of these cash in hand and stand outside the event to get a chance to look over what folks are bringing and maybe offer to buy something for slightly more than the program.
Probably location dependent. Here in Florida there is nothing illegal about firearm sales between private parties as long as they are both Florida residents and not otherwise prohibited from owning firearms.



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I remember a few years ago in a state up north, a woman brought in a German STG44 that apparently her late husband had brought back from World War Two.
Thankfully there was a police officer who knew a little about older/antique guns and stopped her from turning it in.
He told her to go home and check to see if her late husband had any paperwork on it because it was a very valuable firearm.
I am not sure how the story turned out but it would have been a shame if she turned it in and they destroyed it.




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What exempts local law enforcement from having to do a Federally-mandated 4463 transfer and background check on these gun buyup frauds? Shouldn't an FFL be involved on every transaction? VA, in her infinite wisdom, has criminalized private transfers in most cases on the State level, I'd be really surprised if this isn't the case in CA and other leftist States as well. So how do they get a free pass on "no questions asked"/avoidance of paperwork when ransoming your gun? And where's the ATF, aren't they abrogating their duties under Federal law?

From another perspective, I'm sure that a percentage of the folks turning over firearms are prohibited persons. Perhaps there are even some who stole a gun expressly to get free money. Why isn't LE doing a full-scale background investigation on each and every one of those offering a firearm? Temporary suspension of their oath of office? How/why is this different from discovering a firearm in a traffic stop and "running" the driver? Once again LE integrity is compromised by well-meaning self-proclaimed do-gooders.
 
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I've often wondered the legality of going to one of these cash in hand and stand outside the event to get a chance to look over what folks are bringing and maybe offer to buy something for slightly more than the program.


I've done it. Perfectly legal in AZ. When I did it, the cops actually ran out of gift cards, so it didn't take much to outbid them then. In fact, when the police chased us away, they had to claim the leaders of the church where this was going on wanted us off the property. That was the worst they could say we were doing. It was, however, a stern verbal warning before they'd have written us trespassing cites.
 
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What exempts local law enforcement from having to do a Federally-mandated 4463 transfer and background check on these gun buyup frauds? Shouldn't an FFL be involved on every transaction? VA, in her infinite wisdom, has criminalized private transfers in most cases on the State level, I'd be really surprised if this isn't the case in CA and other leftist States as well. So how do they get a free pass on "no questions asked"/avoidance of paperwork when ransoming your gun? And where's the ATF, aren't they abrogating their duties under Federal law?

From another perspective, I'm sure that a percentage of the folks turning over firearms are prohibited persons. Perhaps there are even some who stole a gun expressly to get free money. Why isn't LE doing a full-scale background investigation on each and every one of those offering a firearm? Temporary suspension of their oath of office? How/why is this different from discovering a firearm in a traffic stop and "running" the driver? Once again LE integrity is compromised by well-meaning self-proclaimed do-gooders.

I don’t know about the federal side of it. I thought that in Free American individuals could freely transfer firearms without any of the BS required in Kommiefornia or some other lost states. If that is true, then I wouldn’t think that the feds and/or ATF would have anything to do with it.

With respect to state law in CA, yes, almost all transactions must go through an FFL. (In state interfamilial transfers are one exception, there maybe others.) I think you might be missing the key point: “We’re from the government. We make the laws and enforce them on you. Why would you think they would apply to us?” To be fair though, it is entirely possible that there is a carve-out in the law requiring most transfers to go through an FFL that explicitly allows buybacks. It is Kommiefornia after all.
 
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In PA, private handgun transfers must be processed through a licensed FFL dealer via the completion of a Federal 4473, PA State Record of Sale form and PICS (NICS) instant check approval. Transfers between spouses and lineal heirs are exempt from this requirement. While PA does not require gun registration per se, the PA State Police maintains a de facto registry of handgun ownership based upon the information obtained from the Record of Sale forms.
 
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Here in UK two interesting handguns appeared 'out of the woodwork. The first came to light in 2002 when the local council came to empty out the home of an old lady who had died in hospital in the North East of England, in an area best-known for coal mines and heavy industry, as well as the birthplace of the railway. One of the items found in the loft of her little two-bedroom terrace house was a sharkskin-covered box containing an original and seemingly-unfired Colt Paterson five-shot revolver and all it accoutrements. The serial number was less than 100. It was sold for around 1/4 million dollars. It is now for sale again at Bonhams Auction - https://thegamefair.org/bonham...-in-house-clearance/

The next pistol was more modern, but was handed in anonymously at a police station, and was instantly recognised for what it was - a single-digit serial number Kreighoff P.08 pistol. It was a few minutes away from the cutting torch, but instead, went to the National Collection at the MoD Pattern Room, Leeds.
 
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The best we could hope for is it was stolen and turned in and not someone who turned in a treasure without knowing what it was.
 
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Possibly a Model 1906. But it appears to be a Model 1900 (can't see if the toggles are "dished").

If so and the S/N is in the 6000-7000 range it could well be one of the 1904 U.S. Army test Lugers. There's a list of army test Lugers (sold as surplus by Bannerman's) on Still's Luger Forum.

Hard to believe someone (and their relatives) were so uninformed to think any Luger was only worth a few hundred dollars!

FWIW, I have two 1900's; an A.E. (in the test s/n range) and a Swiss commercial, Also possess a 1906 A.E.

My heir is well aware of their value!


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In one of the first ones I had ever heard of, or possibly just an old lady turning it in to the police, serial #4 Colt Peacemaker was involved. The woman's father or grandfather was a Major on the ordinance board. Sacramento, Ca, probably in the eighties. It was saved.

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I have to wonder, is this the perfect avenue for a Hit Man to dispose of an "inconvenient" firearm. Last I heard they won't take your name, picture, or any other record, they just hand you a gift card and you're on your way.


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Possibly a Model 1906. But it appears to be a Model 1900 (can't see if the toggles are "dished").

Hard to believe someone (and their relatives) were so uninformed to think any Luger was only worth a few hundred dollars!

My heir is well aware of their value!


At First glance it looks like a "dished" toggle, but that's a shadow. If you look at the side resting on the table you can see that it is flat.

I'm sure a lot of unsuspecting widows and heirs are being taken advantage of in the name of this..........nonsense.


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