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It's Official: "Smart" Phones Are Making Us All Stupider

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November 25, 2025, 09:45 AM
PASig
It's Official: "Smart" Phones Are Making Us All Stupider
It almost seems insidious to me like this was all planned to pan out this way over time. I remember Steve Jobs never let his young kids touch any of his own products like the iPad or the iPhone...he knew.

quote:

It’s not just Gen Z — all ages are being hit hard by this damaging side effect of social media

By Rikki Schlott
Published Nov. 24, 2025, 4:34 p.m. ET
NY Post

We’ve all heard how social media is devastating teen mental health — but a shocking new report confirms it’s robbing pretty much everyone of the ability to focus.

The meta-study from Griffith University in Australia analyzed 71 surveys with more than 98,000 research subjects and found that consuming short-form video is associated with diminished attention span and inhibition control.

“I used to think the main damage from social media was to youth mental health,” psychologist Jonathan Haidt, author of the bestselling book “The Anxious Generation,” recently posted on X. “Now I believe that the global destruction of the human ability to pay attention may be even larger.”

Talking to The Post, he went even harder: “Humanity is getting stupider, thanks to our technology, at the exact moment when our machines are getting smarter … It started as soon as we all started carrying smartphones and scrolling past anything that contained four seconds of boredom.”

And that goes for all ages. John, a 27-year-old law student from Michigan says short-form video — like TikToks and Instagram Reels and stories — has taken a toll on both him and his Boomer mom.

He admits it’s hard to watch TV without reaching for his phone and that he never eats a meal without engaging with some form of social media.

“In class it can be hard to focus on what the professor is saying for more than a few minutes without checking my phone or opening LinkedIn. It feels like a compulsion,” said John, who asked to withhold his last name to protect his family’s privacy.

“I’ve seen Facebook addiction in my parents, which is having a way more detrimental effect on them than it is on me, because at least I’m cognizant of the tactics [used by social media companies],” he said. “My Boomer parents are not.”

He estimates that his mom, who is retired, spends three to four hours on Facebook a day.

“For me, this is the saddest aspect of social media,” he said. “It has taken my mother’s attention during a time when she is supposed to be reaping the rewards of a long career.”

Griffith University researchers found the negative association between attention and short-form content — defined as videos lasting a few seconds to a few minutes — was consistent across all age groups and all social media platforms.

“Repeated exposure to highly stimulating, fast-paced content may contribute to habituation, in which users become desensitized to slower, more effortful cognitive tasks such as reading, problem solving, or deep learning,” the researchers hypothesized. “This process may [gradually weaken] the brain’s ability to sustain attention on a single task.”

Educators are certainly seeing it.

Students “often can’t sit still or keep thoughts inside their heads,” Murphy Kenefick, a 28-year-old literature teacher at a Nashville high school, told The Post. “From not being able to actually read anything to [not] paying attention in class, it’s a problem.”

Some teachers are beginning to recognize the same symptoms in themselves.

A former high-school history teacher in Jonesboro, Georgia, Jordan Snow read hundreds of books just to obtain his two degrees — but admits he now “struggles to read a book consistently” thanks to social media.

“I’ve found myself unable to watch a movie [without] picking up my phone just to scroll,” Snow, 46, said.

There’s something incredibly insidious about Big Tech stealing any conscious control over our lives. Teens, it turns out, were canaries in the coal mine, warning that something catastrophic was about to happen to all of us.

And people are absolutely feeling it: A 2024 poll by Common Sense Media found that a majority (51%) of young adults aged 18 to 22 believe that social media has reduced their attention span.

Hiba Belghazi, a 24-year-old psychology student in Montreal, said YouTube was “pretty much [her] third parent growing up” and that she developed the habit of doom-scrolling when bored or stressed.


“Humanity is getting stupider, thanks to our technology, at the exact moment when our machines are getting smarter ” Haidt, author of “The Anxious Generation,” told The Post.



But she resolved to read 52 books this year — and has nearly met her goal. The secret to her success? She deleted social media apps and blocked YouTube on her browser.

“Emotions came up that I had been repressing — a restlessness that I had been numbing with YouTube. It was a desire to do things,” she said. “We vastly underestimate the waste of human potential and the energy being drained by these apps.”


It’s not just Gen Z — all ages are being hit hard by this damaging side effect of social media


November 25, 2025, 11:26 AM
Prefontaine
Been saying the same thing for over a decade now. Never been on the social media apps and never will. Never used Tik Thot either. You really see the effect when driving. All of this has messed people’s brains up, big time. Driving requires being attentive, focused, and now many are unable. It makes driving extremely dangerous.

At work, if I type up a long, technical email I get feedback that my leadership won’t read it because it’s too long. Well technical data doesn’t fit into whatever Twatter character limit is set at. It’s technical information.

It will get worse over time. So go rural, and get away from major cities. They will be even more of zoos in the coming years. Everyone is on the phone all day.



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November 25, 2025, 12:03 PM
a1abdj
It’s not just the exposure to the electronics themselves, but also the societal demand for instant gratification combined with the lack of motivation to do any work in the process.

We are seeing this even more with AI. You could search something and read it, but why? Just ask AI and let it tell you (with zero evidence that it’s correct).

I’ve been telling my son for years: At no time in human history have we had more information available instantly at our fingertips, yet at the same time we as a society are the dumbest we have ever been.


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November 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
Pipe Smoker
Social media, yes. Smart phones, no.

Used with intelligence smart phones are powerful tools.

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November 25, 2025, 12:42 PM
iron chef
quote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
At work, if I type up a long, technical email I get feedback that my leadership won’t read it because it’s too long.
I feel your pain. Frown
Look, I get TL;DR. TL;DR is for being people who write much more than necessary or requested. It's for people who have trouble getting to the point.

I often send work-related messages & instructions. I include all the relevant info, so it's unlikely readers will need to ask me questions. I practice & strive for clear & concise writing. I ask recipients to confirm they read & understand my text/email, and they confirm back. Inevitably, I get people who later will ask me questions. "What time, where, what to bring?," etc.
You know that message to which you replied, "Confirmed"? All the answers to your question were in my goddamn instructions, if you had bothered to read past the first two sentences.
November 25, 2025, 01:10 PM
darthfuster
It has changed how I use my brain. When I was younger, I had at least 7 phone numbers memorized. I can still quote three of them. Same with addresses. If I drove to a location once, I could get there again unaided.

Now I only know my number and my wife’s number sometimes. Using turn by turn and maps, I don’t pay attention as much to my route so I have to use maps at least four times depending on how complicated the route is. I don’t read books as often. Now I listen to them. Trouble with that is recall, reference and pondering. Narrated books are not good for research.

However, I do read more than ever. They are news and interest articles that I read now. I don’t watch TV at all. I have more contact with family and friends than I did before. Overall for someone my age, the phone is a benefit.



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November 25, 2025, 01:30 PM
apprentice
Social media is essentially a drug of the modern times. It's a dopamine delivery system that is very good at its job.

Like any other drug, the key is to use, rather than being used.

Though if it were up to me to rate social media according to a risk/reward basis, I'd put it right up next to fentanyl.
November 25, 2025, 01:33 PM
downtownv
No doubt about that, I used to know everybody's phone number by memory. Not anymore.


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November 25, 2025, 01:48 PM
Orive 8
Not me, don't own a "smart phone". Wink

Must be something else making me stupider... Smile


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November 25, 2025, 01:54 PM
architect
Alcohol counters the detrimental effects of smart phone usage.

Don't believe it? You're obviously not drinking enough alcohol!
November 25, 2025, 02:22 PM
SIG4EVA
This is why my kids won't have a phone until they can drive. Even then, may not.


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November 25, 2025, 02:54 PM
CQB60
Have some fun next time you go to a restaurant for dinner. Watch the number of times that people around you check their phones. It’s amazing.


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November 25, 2025, 03:20 PM
konata88
Reminds of a Non-Sequitur comic that ran a long time ago. That "weird" girl talking about this w/ the alien (and suggestive that the aliens were responsible for this intended outcome). Funny then, not so much now. Ironic how social media is destroying society.




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November 25, 2025, 03:34 PM
cparktd
I have been an Somewhat early adopter of tech.
Microwave oven, computers, Mac and PC, internet via long distance dial up, cable TV and internet, cell phones, smart phones… ect…

GPS. Yep, early adopter. And while I would do so again… it has absolutely dumbed me down. Time was I could give detailed directions including relevant landmarks to most anywhere I knew or had been. Knew every street in a town of ~12k residents. Not now… I can hardly direct you anywhere… My most used single saved destination is HOME! Roll Eyes



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November 25, 2025, 03:53 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
Have some fun next time you go to a restaurant for dinner. Watch the number of times that people around you check their phones. It’s amazing.


There is a family up the street from us; husband, wife and two boys maybe age 12/13 and 9/10 and they will walk the neighborhood which you think great it's a family walk, right?

Nooooo...they're literally like this, all 4 of them heads down on their phones the whole time, shuffling around like this:



I really do fear for our society sometimes.


November 25, 2025, 04:02 PM
bendable
So, the worst decision makers on the planet
made the choice to make life easier ,
developed a palm sized super computer
and all the facts that this computer
contains says that we are 33% stupider
than thirty years ago.

Yeah that sounds about right





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November 25, 2025, 04:07 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by iron chef:
quote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
At work, if I type up a long, technical email I get feedback that my leadership won’t read it because it’s too long.
I feel your pain. Frown
Look, I get TL;DR. TL;DR is for being people who write much more than necessary or requested. It's for people who have trouble getting to the point.

I often send work-related messages & instructions. I include all the relevant info, so it's unlikely readers will need to ask me questions. I practice & strive for clear & concise writing. I ask recipients to confirm they read & understand my text/email, and they confirm back. Inevitably, I get people who later will ask me questions. "What time, where, what to bring?," etc.
You know that message to which you replied, "Confirmed"? All the answers to your question were in my goddamn instructions, if you had bothered to read past the first two sentences.

Bingo. Good to know I'm not in the dark here, I have the EXACT same problem with technical work emails. They read the first sentence and reply asking you questions that the second sentence already answered. And these are not dumb people I'm dealing with. It's frustrating.




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November 25, 2025, 04:43 PM
sandman76
quote:
Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
This is why my kids won't have a phone until they can drive. Even then, may not.


My son has an 12 year old boy. He refuses to get the kid a phone. He is about the only student in his classes without one. Good or bad it creates a "thing". Hard to describe. My grandson is a good boy and rarely complains about it but I know it makes him feel left out amongst his peers.

When I was his age I was pissed because my parents wouldn't buy me Levi's and let me grow my hair long.


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November 25, 2025, 04:52 PM
egregore
quote:
"Smart" Phones Are Making Us All Stupider

"Us" and "all" - meaning everybody - is a bullshit blanket statement. I consider one to be a great convenience and an important piece of emergency equipment. Yeah, yeah, people misuse them, blah blah fucking blah. Speak for yourself.





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November 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
SIG4EVA
quote:
Originally posted by sandman76:
quote:
Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
This is why my kids won't have a phone until they can drive. Even then, may not.


My son has an 12 year old boy. He refuses to get the kid a phone. He is about the only student in his classes without one. Good or bad it creates a "thing". Hard to describe. My grandson is a good boy and rarely complains about it but I know it makes him feel left out amongst his peers.

When I was his age I was pissed because my parents wouldn't buy me Levi's and let me grow my hair long.


Yeah, its definitely a thing and honestly this generation of parents are borderline retarded. I got my daughter a Garmin Bounce, mainly because she is in middle school, plays sports, and rides her bike to school and I can't always ride with her. We can text and leave voice messages through the app. No one outside the app can contact it. Basically a fancy airtag with some functionality.


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