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| Little ray of sunshine  |
I doubt it. It seems extremely unlikely that he will be charged. The DA won't take this to a Grand Jury. The DA and Sheriff may put him in for a medal. Stop spreading that sort of nonsense. Perhaps every shooting is presented to a Grand Jury in Minnesota, although I doubt it. Here, they are not. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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As I noted on the previous page, my comment was dripping with sarcasm directed at the conventional Internet wisdom about legal fees following "good shoots". | |||
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| Sigless in Indiana  |
This. Exactly. If this isn't a perfect example of a man needing to be concerned with being charged with a crime while being a wholly upstanding citizen, I don't know what is. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
You have much more experience and insight in this than I, but I was under the impression that all homicides in Texas were presented to a Grand Jury, maybe for possible indictment, a no bill, a standing ovation, or even a direction to the County Judge to make a day in the near future [Shooter]'s Day in the county. I recall Joe Horn's case. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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thin skin can't win |
Joe Horn was lucky not to at least be charged, but that case could be much more dissimilar. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
He was lucky not to be elected Mayor. Most folks around here consider him to be a hero. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited  |
I hadn't heard the Ballad of Joe Horn. But hereit is. God Bless Texas. _______________________ | |||
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Bad dog! |
Much of this misinformation is spread by magazines, internet sites, and hands-on courses dedicated to CCW. They get your attention by scaring you about "what you don't know." ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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If he is not charged by the grand jury is he completely safe from a civil suit? I'm thinking OJ here. Obviously OJ was tried but found innocent then lost a civil suit. _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
You can bet the family of the criminal that he shot will file a wrongful death suit. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Really? Even though Texas law specifically provides immunity in cases of justifiable self defense? | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Much like the Aurora shooting lawsuit, the most likely result is that if you're dumb enough to sue in Texas you get the "privilege" of paying for your attorney as well as their attorney. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
No. There is no requirement to present all homicides to a grand jury. A prosecutor can decide not to present the case. Joe Horn's case was presented, but the talk was that it was because there was so much political pressure that the prosecutor didn't want to make the decision himself. He didn't take it to the grand jury for months, and the talk was that was to let the political heat for indictment to die down. MNSIG, I missed the sarcasm, and missed your earlier post. There is a shield law in Texas, but some commentators believe that the statute should be clarified to explicitly include no-bills and refusals to prosecute so as to better define when a killing is justified, therefore triggering the shield law. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
Want to bet? Contingency fee lawyers aren't stupid. They don't take cases that won't pay. From what I have heard, this one won't pay. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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To me, this is a huge issue, and one that Ohio got right. It still surprises me when we are rated low on those "firearm friendly state comparisons" that pop up every year. Of course, we still have a long way to go to catch Pennsylvania. If I'm not mistaken, you can actually have a drink while armed in a bar there. ------------------------------ "They who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin "So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala (Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith) | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
You can in Utah as well. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Move Up or Move Over |
In TN you can't carry in establishments defined as bars. However, if you just happen to have a gun with you and you use it to defend yourself or others you can't be charged. Stupid way to do business but this way the anti's and the pro 2a both got their wish... | |||
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Unhyphenated American |
TN does not license bars. Any establishment that serves alcohol must get a majority of their income from food. They just don't enforce the law. __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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Spinnin' Chain |
Terrific outcome notwithstanding the unfortunate death of the manager. Reinforces the duty to carry when and wherever you can. | |||
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| St. Vitus Dance Instructor  |
Just heard on the news they will present it to the Grand jury but expect no traction on the case. The shooter also had a fully loaded back up pistol in his pocket. | |||
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