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Dont laugh guys, this was my first attempt!
December 01, 2020, 11:58 AM
gunnuttyDont laugh guys, this was my first attempt!
Very nice job!!
December 01, 2020, 01:40 PM
10X-ShooterThat’s a nice job. Nothing to laugh at at all.
December 01, 2020, 01:49 PM
Excam_ManNot to shabby, Scooby!
December 01, 2020, 02:54 PM
TinymanNot too bad at all. Question -- what do you color / stain the leather? I've heard shoe polish, I've heard soaking in tea or other plant based stuff. Just curious.
Side note, has Seoul recovered any at all since the pandemic?
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December 01, 2020, 03:05 PM
GustoferGood first job IMO. I've only done a few so don't take my advice as gospel. Hopefully some of the more experienced leather workers will chime in as I'd like to learn as well.
Regarding the stitching, I have found that using a drill press to drill the holes for the stitching is very effective in keeping things nice and straight and even. There are some good tutorials online on how to do stitching correctly as well. Also, a disk and/or belt sander works well for the edges in addition to beveling.
Otherwise, it looks pretty good.
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December 01, 2020, 05:36 PM
1967GoatGreat job!
December 01, 2020, 05:43 PM
AKSuperDuallyquote:
Originally posted by Tinyman:
Not too bad at all. Question -- what do you color / stain the leather? I've heard shoe polish, I've heard soaking in tea or other plant based stuff. Just curious.
Side note, has Seoul recovered any at all since the pandemic?
I'm finding that I really like neatsfoot oil. Sometimes I throw some dye in there first.
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December 01, 2020, 05:49 PM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
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Originally posted by Tinyman:
Not too bad at all. Question -- what do you color / stain the leather? I've heard shoe polish, I've heard soaking in tea or other plant based stuff. Just curious.
Side note, has Seoul recovered any at all since the pandemic?
I'm finding that I really like neatsfoot oil. Sometimes I throw some dye in there first.
That is all I've used on this, two light coats. I will eventually get into dying and there is no shortage of colors here in Korea, my wife saw purple and has already requested a purple holster for the P6 I bought. However, I wanted to get the basics of stitching and edge finishing, etc. before diving into dying. After all, a vegetable tanned color will still work even if not the prettiest, that was my thinking anyway.
As to your second question, Seoul never had to recover. It was by all accounts the model for how to control the virus. A previous thread turned political and I will simply say that it is easier to put the rules in place here than other areas as some of the rules do indeed infringe upon freedoms we have in the US. But politics aside and just focusing on pure numbers Seoul metropolitan is a city of 25M and until this past week they were calling 25 people a day an "outbreak". We are seeing numbers north of 500 a day this week but comparatively speaking that is an outstanding number. Seoul has put in place their "Level 2" restrictions which I wont get into because it doesn't really matter, but they take it VERY seriously here as they have dealt with virus scares before and deal with pollution daily. So it wasn't even a culture shock here, just another day.
10 years to retirement! Just waiting! December 01, 2020, 05:55 PM
XLTit's not as easy as it looks, I almost bought a consew sewing machine last week, it would be fun to have one but not to sure after the fun went away if I would continue to make anything with it, this was all hand stitched and I made the pattern myself, it's super comfortable and fits me like a glove has good retention. I honestly don't even know if I'm carrying half the time which is the point. you did a great job for the first time keep at it.
December 01, 2020, 06:01 PM
rwilliNothing to laugh about, that is a nice rig.
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December 01, 2020, 06:13 PM
comet24Looks really good.
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December 02, 2020, 02:30 AM
sureshot45You did a good job. Not sure if your using an over stitch wheel or chisels but even with chisels you have to use and awl for that thick of leather and it’s takes a ton of practice to keep the holes straight from front to back. When I have use an awl for a project it takes me an hour or two to get into a rhythm and even then I end up getting a few off.
Someone earlier mentioned stitching across the strap, it’s where your square stitching makes the belt loop. The top row of stitching that would be parallel to your belt will take all of the stress. In this case ideally you would just have the 2 rows on either side that way they equally carry the stress. It’s probably more applicable to things that carry lots of weight or stress like belts, shoulder straps, harnesses but it always good to keep in mind.
December 02, 2020, 02:38 AM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by sureshot45:
You did a good job. Not sure if your using an over stitch wheel or chisels but even with chisels you have to use and awl for that thick of leather and it’s takes a ton of practice to keep the holes straight from front to back. When I have use an awl for a project it takes me an hour or two to get into a rhythm and even then I end up getting a few off.
Someone earlier mentioned stitching across the strap, it’s where your square stitching makes the belt loop. The top row of stitching that would be parallel to your belt will take all of the stress. In this case ideally you would just have the 2 rows on either side that way they equally carry the stress. It’s probably more applicable to things that carry lots of weight or stress like belts, shoulder straps, harnesses but it always good to keep in mind.
So you would have two horizontal rows of stitching parallel with the belt?
Or you would have an extra horizontal stitch on the top to reinforce?
10 years to retirement! Just waiting! December 02, 2020, 04:43 AM
pbslingerThese bag straps have pre punched holes for sewing, and are a good example of a stitching pattern that doesn't result in a zone of weakness:
https://www.barefootleather.co...and-solid-brass-deesNot that you should use a pattern like this for this type of sheath, but to give an idea of how leatherworkers avoid the problem.
December 02, 2020, 06:28 AM
saindoLaugh? No way. Looks great and I wish I had the ability.
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December 02, 2020, 08:49 AM
slosigquote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
So you would have two horizontal rows of stitching parallel with the belt?
Or you would have an extra horizontal stitch on the top to reinforce?
No, the horizontal stitches are the problem. Forget the stitches (thread) and think about the row of holes. When one does a stitch across the strap (perpendicular to the tension), they are effectively perforating it, just like paper is perforated so it will tear easily in a given place.
Unless the knife is heavy, it is unlikely to ever be more than a theoretical issue, but it is definitely something you would want to think about on a cinch strap on a saddle or on a harness.
If you simple skipped the two horizontal stitches, that would likely do the trick. If you wanted more, a third vertical in the middle, could be added.
Oh, and to the main point, that is really nice work. I’ve done a few (crude) things over the years and I’d have been thrilled if any were half that nice.
December 02, 2020, 05:49 PM
Tinymanquote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
quote:
Originally posted by Tinyman:
Not too bad at all. Question -- what do you color / stain the leather? I've heard shoe polish, I've heard soaking in tea or other plant based stuff. Just curious.
Side note, has Seoul recovered any at all since the pandemic?
I'm finding that I really like neatsfoot oil. Sometimes I throw some dye in there first.
That is all I've used on this, two light coats. I will eventually get into dying and there is no shortage of colors here in Korea, my wife saw purple and has already requested a purple holster for the P6 I bought. However, I wanted to get the basics of stitching and edge finishing, etc. before diving into dying. After all, a vegetable tanned color will still work even if not the prettiest, that was my thinking anyway.
As to your second question, Seoul never had to recover. It was by all accounts the model for how to control the virus. A previous thread turned political and I will simply say that it is easier to put the rules in place here than other areas as some of the rules do indeed infringe upon freedoms we have in the US. But politics aside and just focusing on pure numbers Seoul metropolitan is a city of 25M and until this past week they were calling 25 people a day an "outbreak". We are seeing numbers north of 500 a day this week but comparatively speaking that is an outstanding number. Seoul has put in place their "Level 2" restrictions which I wont get into because it doesn't really matter, but they take it VERY seriously here as they have dealt with virus scares before and deal with pollution daily. So it wasn't even a culture shock here, just another day.
Thanks for the update -- spent several weekends walking (and I know I'm gonna butcher the spelling) Itaewan. Best buddy and I got plenty of exercise and enjoyed the Korean eateries. Thanks again and stay safe.
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December 02, 2020, 08:00 PM
mikeyspizzaLooks good to me!
December 02, 2020, 10:07 PM
1KPerDayLooks as good as my Steve Brooks one!
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December 02, 2020, 11:14 PM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by slosig:
No, the horizontal stitches are the problem. Forget the stitches (thread) and think about the row of holes. When one does a stitch across the strap (perpendicular to the tension), they are effectively perforating it, just like paper is perforated so it will tear easily in a given place.
Unless the knife is heavy, it is unlikely to ever be more than a theoretical issue, but it is definitely something you would want to think about on a cinch strap on a saddle or on a harness.
If you simple skipped the two horizontal stitches, that would likely do the trick. If you wanted more, a third vertical in the middle, could be added.
Oh, and to the main point, that is really nice work. I’ve done a few (crude) things over the years and I’d have been thrilled if any were half that nice.
Thank you very much, sorry to be so ignorant on the subject. That makes perfect sense, the hole create weakness and failure points across the load bearing portion of the strap.
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