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February 08, 2018, 11:05 PM
Hamden106
Plexiglass gun safe shelves
Does anyone know of a reason NOT to use plexiglass to set pistols on in the gunsafe. If I use plexiglass on shelf brackets in the safe, there is a visibility to see below. I'd beef up the edges for support.



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February 08, 2018, 11:24 PM
safespot
I can't think of any serious downside to using plexiglass (acrylic). It is easy to machine, and edges can be polished to a clear finish if properly milled, sanded and flamed. Of course it will scratch fairly easily, but to me that is a minor issue.



February 08, 2018, 11:50 PM
straightshooter01
Unless you are using some sort of pistol racks, you might find that stuff slides around pretty easily in which case you would need a mat or shelf liner of some sort which would then defeat the purpose of the plexiglass. But if using pistol racks then the ability to let light shine through and increased visibility sounds like it could be a good idea.
February 09, 2018, 04:56 AM
Rinehart
Actually, for many safes I have used a thin sheet of plexiglass underneath the safe after experiencing some rust when sitting on a raw concrete or block floor. (Obviously the safe has to be secured properly).

Worked really well at providing some insulation as well.
February 09, 2018, 12:42 PM
Orthogonal
I very recently had an acrylic closet shelf cut for the same purpose as you are pursuing, i.e., lighting improvement. I had two choices of material fabrication, i.e., one uses a casting process(the more expensive) and the other(which I elected to use) was extruded. They reportedly both use the same resin. Mine was slightly smaller than 2' wide by 3' long and is fully supported on a full three sides on 5/8" ledges.

Now here was the big surprise: For stiffness reasons I elected to use 1/2" thick acrylic and yet it SAGS of its own weight, no other loading, and by about 1/8" to 3/16" in the middle of the unsupported edge! In other words this stuff has rather poor stiffness. Not nearly as stiff as plate glass or decent wood planking, and is a huge disappointment in this regard. Of course I inverted it, hoping I might be encountering some molded in stress-but to no avail-it just downwardly sagged the same, when inverted.

It might be that the cast product is stiffer but I failed to inquire beforehand. I should have gone thicker but the price goes up exponentially it seems - or with tempered glass plate!
February 09, 2018, 12:46 PM
Skull Leader
What about expanded metal instead?
February 09, 2018, 12:53 PM
BB61
As mentioned, it’s awfully slick and stuff would silde around unless you put some sort of covering on it which would seem to defeat the intended purpose.

This might work: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVgRj2e5_s


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February 09, 2018, 02:02 PM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by Rinehart:
Actually, for many safes I have used a thin sheet of plexiglass underneath the safe after experiencing some rust when sitting on a raw concrete or block floor. (Obviously the safe has to be secured properly).

Worked really well at providing some insulation as well.


I put a sheet under mine, as well. Cut it to size, drilled holes where the safe "tie-down" screws go thru. Bolted it down.

Too big to steal so anyone who decides to take what is in it will SOL!. Not to mention that it weighs something like 600 lbs, empty.


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February 09, 2018, 03:01 PM
sjtill
Maybe look into polycarbonate (Lexan) rather than acrylic?


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February 09, 2018, 03:09 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
Maybe look into polycarbonate (Lexan) rather than acrylic?

This. polycarbonate is stronger and more rigid.
Maybe put down some non-slip shelf liner? It would still be partially transparent.
https://www.amazon.com/Non-Ski...n-Slip/dp/B00IXYIWC8


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February 09, 2018, 03:14 PM
Hamden106
Thin plexiglass works fine when boxed at the edges for enough stiffness with at least 3/8 thick wood.



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February 09, 2018, 04:25 PM
LS1 GTO
Personally I don't see a reason and really like the idea where you can have the plexiglass etched (Ruger emblem anyone?) and some LED side lighting.

Lots of potential for some creativity here.






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February 09, 2018, 04:50 PM
Orthogonal
Polycarbonate, while it is a very strong plastic, has many rather different properties from those of acrylic, some of which are inferior and others superior. One of them is that polycarbonate, though many times stronger, is less rigid than the equivalent configuration of acrylic. Look into the GPa measure of stiffness used to so quantify. About the only practical way to increase the stiffness of acrylic sheet is to increase its thickness, aside/apart from applying external assists. Smile