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The Ice Cream Man
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Originally posted by apprentice:
It's probably snake oil somehow, but on the other hand investing a few bucks in tricorder tech in the early 21st century might buy you a moon of your own someday...if they figure out immortality while they are at it.


The very limited lawyering I did, long long ago, involved vetting stuff like this.

The first step, is verify that the advisory board/Board of Directors, etc knows of the company.

These scams always list fairly prominent people. Prominent people have secretaries, etc who are fairly easy to find, and happy to verify such things. (These kinds of scams are very common, and happen all the time.)

That almost always blows everything up.

There’s other stuff: sometimes it’s a scam trying to clone a real project, etc…

Sometimes, it’s Tesla in the very early days. Big Grin
 
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I don’t know where they are getting the energy source to go through clothes/buildings/etc for detection.

On that score, electromagnetic radiation can certainly go through barriers, even multiple barriers depending on strength, wavelength, material. It's why we can use cellphones indoors.



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It’s patented so you are safe. Now show me how it works and the data from trials. Then you can have some of my money - maybe.

RMD




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All: this is my very first post after lurking here for two-plus decades. Who knows, it might be my last. In any case my bio is available under my user name for those who are interested. I am very familiar with the patent process, having 9 issued US patents. I have technical expertise in many areas and have worn many such 'hats' for the US Army as a civilian engineer/scientist. Being retired, I do not speak in any official capacity whatsoever.

A search of Patent 11493494 can be done here without an account:

https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubweb...ages/ppubsbasic.html

This gem, entitled "Detection System' is 45 pages of techno-babble and pure bullshit, devoid of any actual physics or engineering. He even reproduces the entire periodic table in a new way for our alleged benefit. This patent is designed to entice 'investment' in this wondrous new technology. While I would hesitate to call the inventor a liar directly without absolute proof, he sure comes across that way.

I have numerous problems with this 'technology' and the patent describing it. First and foremost is the lack of any sound technical or physical foundation describing remote sensing of tiny amounts of specific substances at a distance. While Nikola Tesla laid the foundation of many everyday devices still in use, i.e., AC power distribution, transformers for voltage reduction, etc. he was also a crackpot with his failed 'wireless distribution of power', mind-reading with pigeons, etc. and any citation of Tesla is solely included to sucker investors, and Nikola Tesla provides no technical pathway for remote sensing in any of his work,

The inventor's alleged 'demonstration' of remote sensing of materials in shielded structures, specifically vehicles, of tiny amounts of gunpowder using ELF frequencies seems to me just a flat-out fabrication. It's not possible using ELF frequencies (at power frequencies, no less) to locate items and identify their makeup with astonishing sub-wavelength precision as claimed, much less with the physics that is described in shielded or even in unshielded settings. At the ELF frequencies used, one will most likely measure nothing but atmospheric noise - which dominates at these frequencies. The electronic diagrams rely heavily on RF frequencies seemingly generated using a vintage '555' timing chip. The antenna structure needed to send and receive such signals is not described to my satisfaction - or really at all. He even manages to show 'embodiments' of his fantasy devices that look like they might work to the uninitiated. I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

One may rightfully ask: how did this patent get granted in the first place? The answer is that demonstrations of one's invention at the USPTO in front of a patent examiner - as in days of old - are long gone, and the examiner can't possibly be an expert in every field, so they rely on 'prior art'. Unless there is a clear violation of prior art, it usually gets granted. Having said all of this, perhaps some of the follow-on patents may actually contain useful information - but probably not.

-KQ4PTN

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So, it's basically just a Turbo Encabulator ...



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The Ice Cream Man
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Oh it might be the Turbo Encabulator Squared, now fortified with Nuclear Vitamins for extra Pep!
 
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