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February 24, 2025, 09:01 PM
tatortodd
I encourage you all to go to the ATF website
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
I’m guessing they will make the firearms part of the ATF an FBI function and the collection of tobacco and alcohol taxes a Treasury function, eliminating the need for a separate Division of government.
Part of streamlining and downsizing government, as it should be.
FBI should get the explosives part of BATFE too



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February 24, 2025, 09:14 PM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
We do not need the ATF.


FBI already does NICS checks. ATF checks to make sure your NFA paperwork is correct when you file for any of that stuff, but currently the bottle neck with NFA submissions isn't the ATF, it's the FBI and their NICS department. If Patel can streamline that so that people aren't waiting for days, weeks, and months on delays, then I see no reason why what the ATF does with NFA related items can't simply be folded into the FBI.

That said, the idea of the FBI under another president like Biden or Obama handling absolutely everything to do with firearms does not give me the warm fuzzies. At least currently there's a separation of labor on that and no one agency has all the power over our 2A rights. If the ATF is going away, then a massive cleanout and revamp of the FBI needs to happen - one the likes of which the hydra cannot simply just grew a few new heads and continue as before.


customer submitted a form 4 almost 3 yrs ago,
2 yrs later he gets a letter from the ATF saying his payment is refunded, and form denied due to waiting on the FBI NICS check,
granted, he has bought firearms in that same time frame,

calls to FBI NICS did not help, nor did calls to NFA branch,

he was able to get a UPIN, and we refiled an E form 4. and he was approved in less than 30 days,



https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/
February 24, 2025, 10:04 PM
darthfuster
When I look at their pictures, except for Kash, I see smiling tyrants. They may not be, but you wouldn’t ever catch me working for the ATF because I respect the bill of rights.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
February 24, 2025, 10:06 PM
Rick Lee
quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
I legitimately want to help people that have been treated improperly by this agency and other government agencies. If anyone has additional ideas on helping me get the word out or can put me in touch with people that will listen, I’d really be appreciative. I really am hopeful that President Trump will be able to make meaningful changes to this organization.


You need to target committee staffers. Find them on LinkedIn and their email addresses on the House side are firstname.lastname@house.gov. If your own Congress critter is one of the good ones, you can go to their district office and ask who their LA (legislative assistant) is for whichever topic - gov't. reform and oversight, judiciary, etc. Unless you personally know your Congress critter and/or are a campaign contributor, you have to go through staff.
February 24, 2025, 10:56 PM
1s1k
quote:
Originally posted by radioman:
Did those assholes ever find those guns they lost in Mexico under Obama / Holder?


That’s chump change compared to the equipment that Ukraine has sold off.

https://hir.harvard.edu/facts-...arms-in-ukraine/amp/

“Monitoring efforts have paid little attention to small arms and light weapons, yet those are the weapons more likely to be stolen by criminal organizations in Ukraine. In January 2024, the US military admitted that it had failed to effectively track over US$1 billion worth of small and light arms. The US military also stated that it could not maintain an accurate serial-number inventory of those weapons. Therefore, while there had been no reports of the weapons being stolen, it was impossible for the Department of Defense to fully determine the endpoint of the weapons”.
February 25, 2025, 12:29 AM
iron chef
quote:
Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I'd like to see if the new leadership there does anything about the Bryan Malinowski murder. Seems to me, putting some word out about that on the main ATF web page would go a long way toward letting people know there absolutely will be some accountability in this case.
^^^ This right here. This is important.

Any enthusiasts who have completed more than a handful of legal, in-person private party transactions w/o going through an FFL could be made an example of - i.e., raided & killed - the way Malinowski was.
February 25, 2025, 03:35 AM
downtownv
quote:
Originally posted by 1s1k:
quote:
Originally posted by radioman:
Did those assholes ever find those guns they lost in Mexico under Obama / Holder?


That’s chump change compared to the equipment that Ukraine has sold off.

https://hir.harvard.edu/facts-...arms-in-ukraine/amp/

“Monitoring efforts have paid little attention to small arms and light weapons, yet those are the weapons more likely to be stolen by criminal organizations in Ukraine. In January 2024, the US military admitted that it had failed to effectively track over US$1 billion worth of small and light arms. The US military also stated that it could not maintain an accurate serial-number inventory of those weapons. Therefore, while there had been no reports of the weapons being stolen, it was impossible for the Department of Defense to fully determine the endpoint of the weapons”.


Or Left behind in Afghanistan...


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February 25, 2025, 06:45 AM
egregore
Although they may have a few useful specialists and technicians, ATF has always seemed redundant to me.
February 25, 2025, 11:20 AM
mrvmax
My FFL is up for renewal this year, I will see how the IOI inspection goes and see if there is a difference.
February 25, 2025, 11:42 AM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
They do have Deputy Assistant Directors.

From the bottom up (in terms of sworn personnel) the order of progression is Special Agent, Senior Special Agent (no higher pay but honorary title for length of good service - also what I was when I left), Resident Agent in Charge or Group Supervisor (GS-14), Assistant Special Agent in Charge (GS-15), Special Agent in Charge (SES), Deputy Assistant Director, Assistant Director, Executive Assistant Director, Deputy Director, Director.


I was bucking for a GLG-20 position, but I didn't do well on the Foreign Service Exam.
February 25, 2025, 12:32 PM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
When I look at their pictures, except for Kash, I see smiling tyrants. They may not be, but you wouldn’t ever catch me working for the ATF because I respect the bill of rights.

The ATF has been like this for some time; I had a buddy that was a class 3 dealer and solid conservative that applied to the ATF back in the early 90’s. He got as far as the interview where they asked him if he would essentially do what the agency instructed him to do in investigations. He replied “I’d do what is constitutional”. That was as far as he got in the hiring process.




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February 25, 2025, 01:43 PM
Rick Lee
quote:
Originally posted by iron chef:
Any enthusiasts who have completed more than a handful of legal, in-person private party transactions w/o going through an FFL could be made an example of - i.e., raided & killed - the way Malinowski was.


The raid and murder were bad enough. But AFIK, they didn't even try to get him to show up at the local field office with his lawyer for questioning. He was the highest paid official in the local gov't. He wasn't selling guns because he needed the money or had been compromised. I have a close local friend who got the "warning letter" from ATF for too many private party sales without an FFL. But they did give him a time and date to appear with his lawyer, and he complied.

And IIRC, they put tape over Maliowski's doorbell camera, didn't wear body cams and were basically looking for a gun fight. It's too bad they didn't more of one.
February 25, 2025, 02:03 PM
ss9961
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:

I was bucking for a GLG-20 position, but I didn't do well on the Foreign Service Exam.


You should’ve had the test proctor hold your wallet for you while you took the test. Wink
April 16, 2025, 06:29 PM
12131
Marvin Richardson is out. More need to go.


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April 17, 2025, 08:43 PM
2000Z-71
Brandon Herrera on new director, elimination of the zero tolerance policy and shitcanning of Marvin Richardson. NSF for language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxwfkjCV6s0




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April 18, 2025, 07:56 AM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by mrvmax:
My FFL is up for renewal this year, I will see how the IOI inspection goes and see if there is a difference.


he may not get one,

supposedly the inspections are now based on number of traces the dealer gets, with a focus on dealers with a high number of traces,

I know one small shop that specializes in collectibles, antiques, etc (not a lot of new stuff ) that went 12 yrs between inspections



https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/
April 18, 2025, 08:03 AM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by lyman:
I know one small shop that specializes in collectibles, antiques, etc (not a lot of new stuff ) that went 12 yrs between inspections


There was a smallish shop locally where in 26 years, besides the initial site visit, they never had an BATFE inspection.





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April 18, 2025, 08:31 AM
Rick Lee
The guy I used to use for transfers before I got my FFL told me he'd had an inspection at his house last EIGHT HOURS and they found multiple violations. This FFL is also an LEO and a pretty straight arrow, so this story kind of scared me.
April 18, 2025, 03:22 PM
Rick Lee
I applied for my 07 today, called my IOI with a few questions. He had no idea who I was. My intake interview was exactly two mos. ago, lasted three hours and he and I have spoken on the phone, texted and emailed a lot. He had no recollection of me at all. I'm getting the feeling these guys are spread thin and I won't be getting inspected anytime soon.
April 18, 2025, 04:09 PM
MikeinNC
^^^ you probably won’t. My buddy only started getting inspected when he began getting trace requests. Once that happened and they found he had a few minor paperwork things, they began in earnest.

He began using their computer based logbook and the errors went away. But the inspections continued because of the traces. Seems nefarious naredowells in Wake county would have their gf drive over to another county and buy a gun, then give it to Ray-Ray who then got caught with it or the cops recovered it in a crime and traced it to his store. He eventually shut the place down about a year after I moved away.



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