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Originally posted by JALLEN:

Well, Sec. State Tillerson said they summoned the Turkish Ambassador and expressed their dismay. That's how these breaches of diplomatic decorum are handled.

In practical terms there are also the usual six options. One, do nothing. Two, issue a statement deploring the conduct. Three, lodge an official protest. Four, cut off aid. Five, break off diplomatic relations; and six, declare war.

There is another option I've heard of which may happen but which will not be reported.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Amazing display of chutzpah as Turkey summons US ambassador to complain about 'rough treatment' of guards who attacked peaceful protesters on US soil (not on embassy grounds).

Turkey summons US ambassador to protest 'aggressive' handling of Turkish bodyguards

Well, Sec. State Tillerson said they summoned the Turkish Ambassador and expressed their dismay. That's how these breaches of diplomatic decorum are handled.

In practical terms there are also the usual six options. One, do nothing. Two, issue a statement deploring the conduct. Three, lodge an official protest. Four, cut off aid. Five, break off diplomatic relations; and six, declare war.

Well the US summoning the Turkish ambassador makes sense. Multiple videos and 100% of the eyewitnesses corroborate that the bodyguards attacked the protesters unprovoked. On US soil. That's definitely a cause for summoning an ambassador.

However it is the height of chutzpah for the Turkish government to summon the US ambassador to complain about the 'rough treatment' of the guards. Are they wanting the US government to pay the cleaning bill for the blood of the protesters on their suits?

Time to boot those goons out of the USA. Unacceptable period!

Add to this, move ALL OF THE US MILITARY OUT OF TURKEY!

What a bunch of sh_t!

I am looking forward to the day that the US withdraws aid and assistance to the Turks. We may have needed them once, but I feel now they are burdensome and not worth their cost.

I strongly hope that we can push our politicians to do right by our citizens that were attacked by the thuggish Turks. Hand them the ass spanking they truly deserve!

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Originally posted by rburg:
I don't agree. We or our guards do the same thing to protect American Embassies abroad.

Since when do U.S. Marines leave U.S. compounds and commence beating up peaceful demonstrators on foreign soil?

Erdogan is nothing more than a tyrant and bully. Now he's getting away with conducting his abuse on U.S. soil. This is manifestly unacceptable!

Mr. Trump has just lost a couple degrees of respect, in my eyes, by allowing this to have occurred on U.S. soil, without any more reaction than a wagging of the finger at the offenders

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chutzpah

indeed.

and it's especially humorous to hear it used to describe a Muslim/Muslims. I bet he/they hate(s) that.

5 different videos of the attack synchronized. Pretty much shows that Erdogan gave the order to attack the US citizens on US soil and that at no time were the protesters presenting any kind of threat.




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...CJg&feature=youtu.be

Execute them, burn the house.

JALLEN, You missed one: tell the country to immediately recall and replace the Embassy staff, including the Ambassador.

flashguy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...timesworld&smtyp=cur

Turkey’s President Calls U.S. Indictments of His Guards a ‘Scandal’

Turkey’s president denounced what he called the “scandalous” American judicial system on Friday, responding to new indictments of his bodyguards over a brawl during his visit to Washington in May.

The remarks in Istanbul by the president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, underscored his view of the indictments as another affront in an increasingly strained relationship with the United States, a NATO ally.

Members of Mr. Erdogan’s armed security detail were captured on video punching, kicking and choking pro-Kurdish protesters, including American citizens, outside the Turkish ambassador’s residence in Washington on May 16. Video clips also showed that Mr. Erdogan, who was in Washington to meet with President Trump, witnessed the brawl.

Washington police officers intervened to halt the fighting, which the Metropolitan Police chief, Peter Newsham, described as a brutal attack on peaceful protesters that had left at least 11 people injured. American lawmakers and other officials expressed outrage that Mr. Erdogan’s guards had behaved in such a manner.

Twelve Turkish security officers were charged in June in connection with the attack. A federal grand jury indicted three more this past Tuesday. Four others also have been charged.

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All but two of the defendants — a pair of Turkish-American businessmen — are at large, and most, if not all, are believed to be in Turkey.

Mr. Erdogan’s aides have said his security detail was shielding the Turkish president from what they called inadequate protection by the Washington police from the demonstrators, who were protesting Mr. Erdogan’s crackdown on Kurdish separatists.

Mr. Erdogan, who had expressed his anger when the initial indictments were announced three months ago, doubled down on his criticism on Friday when asked about the additional indictments.

“This is completely a scandal,” he told reporters in televised remarks on the first day of the Eid al-Adha holiday. “It is clearly a scandalous sign of how justice works in America.”

Mr. Erdogan also said he would discuss the issue with President Trump if the opportunity arose. Both are attending the United Nations’ annual General Assembly summit meeting later this month.

The criminal charges have added to Mr. Erdogan’s irritation with the United States, which predates Mr. Trump’s presidency.

Mr. Erdogan has repeatedly called on the American judicial authorities to extradite Fethullah Gulen, a cleric who lives in exile in Pennsylvania. He is the leader of a Turkish Muslim sect accused by Mr. Erdogan of having helped orchestrate an attempted coup that roiled Turkey in July 2016.

Mr. Gulen, a longtime critic of Mr. Erdogan’s, has denied any connection to the coup attempt and vowed to fight extradition.

Thousands of people suspected of being followers of Mr. Gulen and his sect have been purged from their jobs and prosecuted in Turkey since the coup attempt. Mr. Erdogan’s government refers to Mr. Gulen’s sect as Feto, an acronym for “Fethullah Gulen terrorist organization.”

The Turkish leader also has criticized the American military for aiding Syrian Kurdish militia fighters in the fight to rout the Islamic State from Syria. Mr. Erdogan and his aides regard the Syrian Kurds as enemies because of their links to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party, the main Kurdish militant group in Turkey, also known as the P.K.K.

“These developments in the United States are not good at all,” Mr. Erdogan said Friday. “The United States is still a country where the Feto gang is being protected.”

He also said the United States “has literally become a country where the P.K.K. terrorist organization is under protection.”

A scandal, eh? So tell us, Mr. Erdogan, why no one but you is outraged?

Erdogan bin Raghead needs to shut his fargin pie hole.

Scandal? Blow me.

I grew up in NJ around of a lot of Armenians. So basically I grew up believing they were the enemy. My 90-something year old neighbor had a serial number tattoo on his arm from when he wasn't a boy in a Turkish labor camp. His father was forced to walk to death in the desert.

I'm not surprised as to the progress thus far. Thugs on the street, US citizens abused; just biz as usual.

^^^ I read your post, then I read your signature line, and the thought that crossed my mind was: "Well, when it comes to the Turks, the Greeks oughtta know."