Cripes.



https://www.theguardian.com/wo...ers-in-washington-dc

Nine people hurt and two arrests made during the altercation at the Turkish ambassador’s residence in the US capital

Nine people were hurt and two arrests were made during an altercation at the Turkish ambassador’s residence in the US capital during a visit by Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

According to witnesses, a brawl erupted when Erdoğan’s security detail attacked protesters carrying the flag of the Kurdish PYD party outside the residence. A local NBC television affiliate reported Erdoğan was inside the building at the time.

Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Dustin Sternbeck said the altercation broke out between two groups but he didn’t elaborate on the circumstances. He said two people were arrested, including one who was charged with assaulting a police officer.

“All of the sudden they just ran towards us,” Yazidi Kurd demonstrator Lucy Usoyan told ABC, adding that she was attacked by a pro-Erdoğan supporter.

“Someone was beating me in the head nonstop, and I thought, ‘Okay, I’m on the ground already, what is the purpose to beat me?’”

The altercation came the same day that Erdoğan met Donald Trump at the White House. The State Department declined to comment.

Earlier Trump and Erdoğan had stood side by side at the White House and promised to strengthen strained ties despite the Turkish leader’s stern warning about Washington’s arming of a Kurdish militia.

Fresh from securing his grip on Turkey with a referendum to enhance his powers, Erdoğan came to the Oval Office with complaints about US support for Kurdish fighters and what Ankara says is Washington’s harbouring of the mastermind of a failed coup.

But both leaders also tried to put a brave face on their differences and to renew a key alliance between Nato’s leading power and its biggest Muslim member, partners in the fight against the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq.

“It is absolutely unacceptable to take the YPG-PYD into consideration as partners in the region, and it’s going against a global agreement we reached,” Erdoğan said, referring to the Kurdish Peoples’ Protection Units (YPG) in Syria.

“In the same way, we should never allow those groups who want to change the ethnic or religious structures in the region to use terrorism as a pretext,” he added, suggesting that the Kurds were using the anti-Isis fight as cover for separatist nationalism.

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hell of a kick at 00:22

Close the embassy, deport everyone in it.

They had to get it on.

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These folks have a slightly different approach to working through their issues. Put the consulate folks on plane one and the protesters on plane two out of this country. Just one more problem we don't need here.

Since when is it OK for Iranians from their Embassy and Erdoğan's security detail to attack peaceful American protesters on American soil?

Fuck those guys.

Turks, not Iranians. And since the best you can do is revoke their diplomatic status (that's sure as shit incompatible with diplomatic status), I'd say it's a damned shame a few of those "bodyguards" didn't catch a billy club in the teeth.

I don't give a fuck if they're Carthaginians or Etruscans. Get them the fuck out of this country. Today. Pack your shit and get to the airport.

Right, Turkey, not Iran. Oops. And yes, every one of them ought to have their status revoked and ought to be shuttled the fuck out of this country, stat.

That shit is unacceptable.

I don't agree. We or our guards do the same thing to protect American Embassies abroad. In many of those situations, the government kind of endorses the anti-American protests.

Maybe this should be a limitation of freedom of speech. Not at foreign embassies, and particularly when the foreign head of state is visiting. Sure, that's when its most attractive to the protestors. They need to know a good ass kicking is coming when they do. Sure, they cry and whine because they got hurt. But its also what they wanted.

Disclaimer: I have no positive feelings for the Turks, and I don't even know what a kurd looks like. I even kind of wonder. Is it what little Miss Muffet was eating in the corner? Whey is nasty, but its a protein source.

Will be interested to see if any can be / will be prosecuted.

Some specific 'diplomats' have immunity, but not all.

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Originally posted by rburg:
I don't agree. We or our guards do the same thing to protect American Embassies abroad. In many of those situations, the government kind of endorses the anti-American protests.

Maybe this should be a limitation of freedom of speech. Not at foreign embassies, and particularly when the foreign head of state is visiting. Sure, that's when its most attractive to the protestors. They need to know a good ass kicking is coming when they do. Sure, they cry and whine because they got hurt. But its also what they wanted.

I seem to recall that embassy grounds are sovereign property of the owning country. So the Turkish Embassy is Turkish, even in DC.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by rburg:
I don't agree. We or our guards do the same thing to protect American Embassies abroad. In many of those situations, the government kind of endorses the anti-American protests.

Maybe this should be a limitation of freedom of speech. Not at foreign embassies, and particularly when the foreign head of state is visiting. Sure, that's when its most attractive to the protestors. They need to know a good ass kicking is coming when they do. Sure, they cry and whine because they got hurt. But its also what they wanted.

I seem to recall that embassy grounds are sovereign property of the owning country. So the Turkish Embassy is Turkish, even in DC.

They were not on or near the Embassy property.

This was on the US street outside of the Turkish ambassador's residence.

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Originally posted by rburg:
I don't agree. We or our guards do the same thing to protect American Embassies abroad. In many of those situations, the government kind of endorses the anti-American protests.

Maybe this should be a limitation of freedom of speech. Not at foreign embassies, and particularly when the foreign head of state is visiting. Sure, that's when its most attractive to the protestors. They need to know a good ass kicking is coming when they do. Sure, they cry and whine because they got hurt. But its also what they wanted.

Disclaimer: I have no positive feelings for the Turks, and I don't even know what a kurd looks like. I even kind of wonder. Is it what little Miss Muffet was eating in the corner? Whey is nasty, but its a protein source.

What does Little Miss Muffet and ISIS in common?

Both have Kurds (curds) in their way (whey)

I suppose if Trump were at the US Ambassador's residence in Turkey and a bunch of North Korean protestors began converging that the US Secret Service would hand out ass whippings as deemed necessary. This is a big "meh" to me.....don't start none, won't be none.

They didn't start none. All they did was protest peacefully on public property, which they have every right to do.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
They didn't start none. All they did was protest peacefully on public property, which they have every right to do.

Sorry, didn't realize you were there. I only saw a few minutes of video with no context.

Had this been the Israeli Ambassador's home and the protesters yelling "free Palisitne" would you be so quick to condemn Netanyahu's security detail?

I guess my point is that both the Ambassador and Leader of Turkey are here as our guest, like it or not. No need for the Kurds, or their supporters, to bring their discord into our house lest our guest take exception.

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Originally posted by Sig209:
Will be interested to see if any can be / will be prosecuted.

Some specific 'diplomats' have immunity, but not all.

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Any foreign citizen can be PNG'd (Persona non grata), which basically = GTFO, NOW.

It will be up to the State Department to declare individuals PNG.

Just based on the video, I'm not sure State has enough to ID each individual who was involved and whether they are US citizens or not.

The video doesn't show the whole protest, just a bunch of folks crossing the street and the tussle begins. Some of the pro-Erdogan suits might actually be US citizens, in which case, they can't be PNG'd.