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We passed a law. Didn't stop them.

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Originally posted by HRK:
I'm thinking we need a new law, one that prohibits people from leaving cars running while parked in an enclosed structure.... and mental health checks, because someone who is depressed might do something rash using these keyless starting systems, a kid could get to it...

I believe it's illegal in Florida to leave an unattended car running anywhere.

Wasn't it Herschel Walker who pulled his garage several years ago and wanted to finish listening to the remainder of a song and then fell asleep and almost died from carbon monoxide poisoning.

If only he would have had a push button start he could blame his mistake on the car manufacturer.

In reality they could have a disabling device that is similar to the current ones used on airbags. If there isn't at least 50lbs on the drivers front seat the car could shut off in a short predetermined amount of time.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by HRK:
I'm thinking we need a new law, one that prohibits people from leaving cars running while parked in an enclosed structure.... and mental health checks, because someone who is depressed might do something rash using these keyless starting systems, a kid could get to it...

I believe it's illegal in Florida to leave an unattended car running anywhere.

Well there you have it, we have a law, ergo, it can't be a problem....

My Corvette has push-button keyless start & stop. You would have to be deaf to not hear it running. It also has automatic door locks when I walk away with a beep of the horn. If the horn doesn't beep, something is wrong.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

I believe it's illegal in Florida to leave an unattended car running anywhere.

Same in S.C. I think it is so that you can't tempt a thief....

During the Summer I often leave my work van running with the A.C. on to keep my work companion cool.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
During the Summer I often leave my work van running with the A.C. on to keep my work companion cool.

Need to be careful. When idling with the AC on, vehicles can get too hot and shut the AC off. You wouldn't want your companion to get hot.

And of course they are suing Toyota...

Jesus do we need to sue everyone for everything? Its not a faulty car, it's not Toyota's fault. Tragedy yes, but anything to sue over? No

I believe it was Shakespere who had the answer "first, kill all lawyers" Almost all people can come up with some phony heart wretching story where the 'po folkes should be allowed to sue the mega corporation. I even agree with the concept, just not to the perverted length its been taken to. Maybe we should allow the corporations to sue stupid people for damaging their reputations.

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Originally posted by rburg:
I believe it was Shakespere who had the answer "first, kill all lawyers"

Yes, the violent criminals said that's what they'd do if they gained the throne.

My only experience with this includes nearly stranding myself. The car picked up my wife’s key, after dropping her off I somehow realized I had left my key at home. The car ran just fine as I ran my errands but had I shut it off it would have been bad news. I’m also thankful it would not allow me to lock the key in the trunk.

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Originally posted by reflex/deflex 64:
My only experience with this includes nearly stranding myself. The car picked up my wife’s key, after dropping her off I somehow realized I had left my key at home. The car ran just fine as I ran my errands but had I shut it off it would have been bad news. I’m also thankful it would not allow me to lock the key in the trunk.

What kind of car is it?

I have done the same thing but once the lone key is no longer within the vehicle the dashboard lit up like a Christmas trees and telling you what the problem is.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
And of course they are suing Toyota...

Jesus do we need to sue everyone for everything? Its not a faulty car, it's not Toyota's fault. Tragedy yes, but anything to sue over? No

Unless you are an ambulance-chasing lawyer trying to make an unethical buck or two over incidents like this.

"It's not your parents fault that they were stupid enough to leave the car running and killed themselves from carbon monoxide poisoning. Toyota [inset should have done, this, this or that] and it's their fault your parents died. Let's sue them so I you can make a killing on the settlement and feel better about your deceased parent's stupidity.

Maybe said parents should have read and understood the owner's manual?

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Originally posted by Orguss:
I'm surprised the second car was able to run for 32 hours straight without overheating and dying on its own.

It was an Avalon. My 06 has 220k miles on it and I think only a rock slide would kill the thing at this point.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:

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Originally posted by reflex/deflex 64:
My only experience with this includes nearly stranding myself. The car picked up my wife’s key, after dropping her off I somehow realized I had left my key at home. The car ran just fine as I ran my errands but had I shut it off it would have been bad news. I’m also thankful it would not allow me to lock the key in the trunk.

What kind of car is it?

I have done the same thing but once the lone key is no longer within the vehicle the dashboard lit up like a Christmas trees and telling you what the problem is.

It was an '11 Altima. It must have told me because I knew not to kill it. I was afraid muscle memory would make me hit the kill switch.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Another example of the Dominant Entertainment Media Billed As "News" finding another thing over which to throw people into a panic.

The ignition key for my TrailBlazer was clipped to my keyring such that I could remove it. Sure as hell: On two occasions I walked away from that truck, hitting the door locks on the key fob, having left the key in the ignition and the engine running.

But those incidents were outside, in a busy parking lot.

I know modern engines can be pretty quiet, but how the hell do you have a motor vehicle running in a residential garage and not notice it?

I handled a death investigation with 9 people in a family dead from CO after a young man came home from the bar, put the car in the garage, closed the door and went in and went to sleep. No one woke up the next morning. 4 adults and 5 kids, or maybe the other way around, it's been over 20 years.

My girlfriend has a Highlander. We checked this out the other day. She was running into work to get something. I was driving and she had the key. There was an alarm inside the car once the key was far enough away. It beeped and flashed "Key not detected". Of course, she was already gone. The alarm was useless. What I don't know is if the alarm would happen when the drivers door was opened. Since I was driving only the passenger door opened but the alarm didn't happen until she was away from the car.

I also drove away without the key one time. A friend and I were running to get beer after she and her friend went in the house (we had just come back from dinner so were all in the car). We parked at the Packie and just as I was pushing the button my buddy said, "Do we have the key?" NOOOOOO! LOL. Luckily the girls and key were only a 5 minute walk away.

Previous and current cars were/are keyless, and if you walked away from the cars with the key they shut down after a short time. You could leave your key in the car of course, but the car wouldn't allow you to lock it from the outside so that would be a clue.

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Previous and current cars were/are keyless, and if you walked away from the cars with the key they shut down after a short time.

If that were the case, then you wouldn't be able to drive around without the fob. If the fob were to be accidentally thrown from the car or the battery died, it could possibly shut down at highway speeds. The fob transmits the start code. It remains until the ign. bottle is pressed which wipes it out.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Previous and current cars were/are keyless, and if you walked away from the cars with the key they shut down after a short time.

If that were the case, then you wouldn't be able to drive around without the fob. If the fob were to be accidentally thrown from the car or the battery died, it could possibly shut down at highway speeds. The fob transmits the start code. It remains until the ign. bottle is pressed which wipes it out.

That is correct. You can't drive around without the fob. You can't start the car without the fob. You can't lock/unlock the car without the fob (exception is secure phone app which allows both in the event you wish to do either remotely, or check status). Interesting point about dead battery though, although I'm not as concerned about the fob being randomly flung out the window; the fob has a mechanical key to open the door, and the car will recognize the fob even with a dead battery, if it's placed in a particular spot....