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Rumors of my death
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We made it up to FL510...51,000 agl in the Lear today. Kinda spooky, living on the edge. Guess I don't care if I ever venture up there again. -61 C outside temp. Pretty dang cold too. Poor thing was outta power for sure.




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And no photos of the view outside? Son, I am disappoint.



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WOW ! How did you get permission from Center to go there ??
 
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Hole Lee Shit...

That is awesome.

I would be scared to death of a rapid depressurization. What sort of time do you have to don oxygen if that were to happen at FL51?

I am a private pilot and have only ever been to 10,000 while acting as PIC. That was high enough for me Smile


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Hole Lee Shit...

That is awesome.

I would be scared to death of a rapid depressurization. What sort of time do you have to don oxygen if that were to happen at FL51?

I am a private pilot and have only ever been to 10,000 while acting as PIC. That was high enough for me Smile


7 seconds to put on the mask. We didn't stay up there more than 5-10 minutes.

Orguss, it was too cloudy to get any real good pics unfortunately. I did get this pic on the descent into Martha's Vineyard though.








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WOW ! How did you get permission from Center to go there ??


It's an assignable altitude. However, we did request a block 490B510, which made it easier to climb up once we were light enough.



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50700 was all I could ever muster out of the 45. Used to cruise the 31 at 510 all the time. You gonna by the tie-tack?


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WOW ! How did you get permission from Center to go there ??


Simple; request it.
 
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I miss flying. Though I've never been PIC in anything with that kind of performance.




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The highest I have been outside of a commercial airliner is 12,000 feet in a helicopter. We hovered over the peak of Mt. Charleston on a maintenance check flight. We had just replaced the mast so you gotta know I really, really trusted our mechanic Wink

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That is really cool...
But I bet it felt good to get your feet back on terra firma!



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Cabin pressure held well!

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For us non-pilots, can I assume 51,000' is the upper limit of the Lear and flight controllers on the ground?


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Highest I ever got in the Harrier was FL440. VERY uncomfortable - not so much from the worry about depressurization since the cockpit isn't pressurized anything like a commercial aircraft, but from the pressure regulator forcing oxygen into your lungs. Had to forcibly exhale. And sounded strangely like Mickey Mouse when on the radio. lol



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For us non-pilots, can I assume 51,000' is the upper limit of the Lear and flight controllers on the ground?
I can not address the Lear's limits, but as far as controlled airspace, altitudes between Flight Level 180 and FL 600 (18,000' to 60,000' referenced to standard altimeter setting of 29.92" Hg) are Class A airspace over the continental U.S.

Flights within Class A must have an IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) clearance issued by ATC (Air Traffic Control).



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I still wonder what happened to Payne Stewart, did they have a rapid depressurization and die from lack of oxygen, or from freezing so quickly they couldn't get the oxygen masks on, or did the oxygen system fail? We'll never know for sure.
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50700 was all I could ever muster out of the 45. Used to cruise the 31 at 510 all the time. You gonna by the tie-tack?


Good question. I'll have to check into thst.

V-Tail is correct. ATC also works airspace above FL 600. They use 5,000 feet of vertical separation. In my 30 years of ATC we only ever had two above FL600 at the same time. Military SR71s. Back then we had to scramble and retrieve the code book, then ask where they were at.



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Highest I ever got in the Harrier was FL440. VERY uncomfortable - not so much from the worry about depressurization since the cockpit isn't pressurized anything like a commercial aircraft, but from the pressure regulator forcing oxygen into your lungs. Had to forcibly exhale. And sounded strangely like Mickey Mouse when on the radio. lol


Thanks for your service! The Harrier must have been a treat to pilot. Bet you have some great stories to tell.



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Outstanding (and a little scary).
Not much wind up there, apparently.
 
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Hole Lee Shit...

That is awesome.

I would be scared to death of a rapid depressurization. What sort of time do you have to don oxygen if that were to happen at FL51?

I am a private pilot and have only ever been to 10,000 while acting as PIC. That was high enough for me Smile


7 seconds to put on the mask. We didn't stay up there more than 5-10 minutes.


One of you were REQUIRED to already have the O2 mask "ON."

§ 91.211 Supplemental oxygen.
(a) General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry -
(b) Pressurized cabin aircraft.
(ii) At flight altitudes above flight level 350 unless one pilot at the controls of the airplane is wearing and using an oxygen mask that is secured and sealed and that either supplies oxygen at all times or automatically supplies oxygen whenever the cabin pressure altitude of the airplane exceeds 14,000 feet (MSL), except that the one pilot need not wear and use an oxygen mask while at or below flight level 410 if there are two pilots at the controls and each pilot has a quick-donning type of oxygen mask that can be placed on the face with one hand from the ready position within 5 seconds, supplying oxygen and properly secured and sealed.



 
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