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Wasn't unusual for #44 to give such missions a green-light. Big difference is this admin seems more at ease with letting on-scene leadership handle things while the press releases or, conferences are simple affairs. Contrast the prior admin was more hands-on and involved for the sake of PR and stage-handling the entire narrative; after all they have all their friends in the news media to placate and suck-up to.


I really think you're right. I remember the ready room picture of Obama while operations were conducted against his cousin Osama. It's like "look how great of a leader I am and I'm I'm also privy to."



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Wasn't unusual for #44 to give such missions a green-light. Big difference is this admin seems more at ease with letting on-scene leadership handle things while the press releases or, conferences are simple affairs. Contrast the prior admin was more hands-on and involved for the sake of PR and stage-handling the entire narrative; after all they have all their friends in the news media to placate and suck-up to.


I really think you're right. I remember the ready room picture of Obama while operations were conducted against his cousin Osama. It's like "look how great of a leader I am and I'm I'm also privy to."


Would it be fair to say Trump does such things based on American values, Obama did such things to pump up his popularity.




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Hopefully the rest of his family is safe and they are thinking about relocating.

That’s what I was thinking. What was he doing living there with his wife and daughter when this is a common occurrence in the area he’s located.

He’s lucky he gets to see them again.
 
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Saw video Kayleigh McEnany talking on Fox about this and also about Pres Trumps visit to Bragg to meet with the SF guys that sent Abu Bakr Al-Baghdouchey to meet his maker.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...020-kayleigh-mcenany


McEnany, discussing what goes on behind the scenes for a military operation, said she spoke to some soldiers who said "we're so proud we have a president that trusts us and gives us the green light" to "take out [...] horrid murderers who have killed far too many of our American men and women in battle."


She also talked about him just chatting casually w the American Badasses at Bragg. Nice insight into Trump's respect for our armed forces and love for this great country of ours.


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Would it be fair to say Trump does such things based on American values, Obama did such things to pump up his popularity.

I would say, all President's have utilized such operations to help shape their image, its just a matter of how the narrative is crafted and re-told; nothing moralistic about it. All President's have used these operations to flex and display their prowess, it's the attitude, stance, approach, orientation...it all trickles down to how the handlers, staffers & The Inner Circle treats the situation. Are they genuine or, are they insincere.
 
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Nigeria, top to bottom and left to right, is one of THE biggest of Mr Trump's 'shithole nations'.

It COULD be probably THE richest nation in West Africa, maybe Super-Saharan Africa, with its immense reserves of fossil fuel and gas, but instead it is a religious/tribal autocracy and with tribal hatred inbred.

One of the recent new members to our gun club here is a great Nigerian guy, glad to be here and that's for sure. He is a technical lecturer on IT, and is one VERY clever dude. He is VERY happy to have a job here in UK working for a major supermarket chain in some capacity, If he wants to tell me sometime, he will, but he's one of those kind of people who just make you smile when you clap your eyes on him. His greatest happiness is that he and his wife got out of Nigeria. He'll be taking his citizenship test next year when all this current crap has hopefully died down, and we are all helping him to do it.

As ever was, it's not the ordinary people who cause the problems, but the dirtbags who run the country for their own benefit.
 
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Originally posted by TomV:
Hopefully the rest of his family is safe and they are thinking about relocating.

That’s what I was thinking. What was he doing living there with his wife and daughter when this is a common occurrence in the area he’s located.

He’s lucky he gets to see them again.



Beyond that, who was this guy? Doesn't seem like Joe Blow expat would get a multi branch and multi country coordinated extraction with a Seal team at the point within hours of being kidnapped. I don't have any specific knowledge otherwise but somehow I doubt that I would get rescued with the same sense of urgency had I been thrown in a trunk in Nigeria.


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Originally posted by TomV:
Hopefully the rest of his family is safe and they are thinking about relocating.

That’s what I was thinking. What was he doing living there with his wife and daughter when this is a common occurrence in the area he’s located.

He’s lucky he gets to see them again.



Beyond that, who was this guy? Doesn't seem like Joe Blow expat would get a multi branch and multi country coordinated extraction with a Seal team at the point within hours of being kidnapped. I don't have any specific knowledge otherwise but somehow I doubt that I would get rescued with the same sense of urgency had I been thrown in a trunk in Nigeria.


It would not surprise me at all if some of these “ foreign aid workers” or “missionaries “
Are fronts for military or CIA backed intelligence gathering operations.
In my time in Iraq and Afghanistan I saw this.
 
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Before the invasion of Panama, Kurt Muse an American, was jailed by Noriega for his role in setting up an anti-Noriega radio station. His rescue was given priority and Delta/CAG sprung him out. Years later, it was revealed he had been working with the CIA; it would not surprise me if Walton was a clandestine contact of some sort either through the military or, the CIA/State. Given the level of unconventional warfare activity in that region over the last 10-years and the lack of established intelligence networks in that part of the world, utilizing locals and those familiar with the region would be the way to do it.
 
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