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Why, yes, it is, and we'll deal with it when the time comes.

Actually, the United States is a Constitutional Republic, but I wouldn't expect these slimy, brainless apparatchiks to know that. They're too busy getting their marching orders from Commie Central, being told exactly what to say.

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Just the left taking yet another page out of history.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibra...he-quot-big-lie-quot
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

This is an excellent definition of the “Big lie,” however, there seems to be no evidence that it was used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, though it is often attributed to him.

The original description of the big lie appeared in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler applied it to the behavior of Jews rather than as a tactic he advocated. Specifically, he accused Viennese Jews of trying to discredit the Germans’ activities during World War I. Hitler wrote of the Jews’ “unqualified capacity for falsehood” and “that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation…. From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited.”

The OSS psychological profile of Hitler described his use of the big lie:

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

Goebbels did describe the big lie in different language in an article he wrote in 1941, “Churchill’s Lie Factory,” but he was accusing the British of the ploy:

The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
Randall Bytwerk argues that neither Hitler nor Goebbels would admit to lying. Goebbels, “always maintained that propaganda had to be truthful. That doesn’t mean he didn’t lie, but it would be a pretty poor propagandist who publicly proclaimed that he was going to lie.”

Yet, they accuse Trump of being Hitleresque. Roll Eyes

Textbook projection. Mental illness. Case closed.


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This is an excellent definition of the “Big lie,” however, there seems to be no evidence that it was used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, though it is often attributed to him.

Thanks for that clarification.

I have long suspected that Goebbels was not the original author of the term, but had never researched the question to be sure.

As I recall, we had an entire thread here about misattributed quotations, and that’s just one more example. Not accusing people of something they didn’t do isn’t approving of what they actually did; it’s just showing regard for truth.




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As I recall, we had an entire thread here about misattributed quotations...
Misattributed quotes on the pages of SIGforum

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Russell Brand: How does the legacy media collude to destroy independent voices by systematically repeating the exact same messaging? This is how...



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2012 they passed the Smith Mundt Modernization Act allowing this.

https://libertarianinstitute.o...nsorship-to-tyranny/


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"This is extremely dangerous to our democracy"

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
-- Benjamin Franklin (unless misattributed)



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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They are extremely dangerous to our republic, er, democracy




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Russell Brand: How does the legacy media collude to destroy independent voices by systematically repeating the exact same messaging? This is how...


Tucker Carlson Interviews Russell Brand, Discussing the Era of Information Warfare and Government Targeting

Russell Brand is a former lefty who took the red pill and over time joined the great awakening. As an outcome of his current perspectives and influence, Brand is currently labeled a dissident threat and targeted by the globalist system.

Tucker Carlson invited Brand to appear on his broadcast for a discussion of the big picture amid the current era of information warfare. Brand is an eloquent voice who frames the arguments very clearly and quickly, thus his growing influence represented a threat to the system and a process of Lawfare attacks was launched against him. The British government then asked all Big Tech platforms to remove Brand from visibility. The only tech platform that refused to acquiesce to the Five-Eyes demand was Rumble.

This is a very good interview, well worth the 40 minutes of time.

Russell Brand Responds to Coordinated Smear Campaign Against Him



https://theconservativetreehou...rgeting/#more-255343



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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“Democracy”. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

Also, the United States is not a democracy. It is a Republic…..with democratic characteristics. But to call it a democracy is a deception by distortion.



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And then they get on YouTube and cry about the massive job losses in the industry.

Can you imagine being a conservative and getting your marching orders having to say this kind of nonsense. Couldn’t do it.
 
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Also, the United States is not a democracy. It is a Republic…..with democratic characteristics. But to call it a democracy is a deception by distortion.

The thing is, they desperately want it to be a pure democracy. That way they could do whatever the hell they want. Majority rule is their wet dream. Hence, wanting to do away with the electoral college. How many times do we hear them whine about the “popular vote”?


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Also, the United States is not a democracy. It is a Republic…..with democratic characteristics. But to call it a democracy is a deception by distortion.

It was founded as a Republic. A Republic protects the rights of the minority.

That was weakened by the 16th and 17th amendments which expanded the size and scope of the central government and weakened State's rights against the central government. The only remaining thing left to destroy is the Electoral College... which the Dems are attempting to do. Then, we lose all characteristics of a Republic.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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I sometimes think the movie "They Live" may have been a warning and not just a movie. Someday someone will develop glasses that will show that all these news people are some sort of alien horror ghouls.


 
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https://founders.archives.gov/.../Adams/99-02-02-6371. Quote found in 2nd paragraph.



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The phony lawsuit and disallowing from ballot campaigns being waged against Donald Trump are a lot more "dangerous to our democracy." The people applauding this have no clue that that can just as easily be turned against someone they do like.
 
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Also, the United States is not a democracy. It is a Republic…..with democratic characteristics. But to call it a democracy is a deception by distortion.

The thing is, they desperately want it to be a pure democracy. That way they could do whatever the hell they want. Majority rule is their wet dream. Hence, wanting to do away with the electoral college. How many times do we hear them whine about the “popular vote”?


Democracies are easy to manipulate into tyrannies



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“Democracy”. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

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We are a representative republic and it’s not surprising that a party that named themselves democrats would be a threat to the country.
 
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