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Originally posted by cas:

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Vote Early & Beat the Cheat

Theoretically, doesn't that just give you MORE time to cheat? Time to lose ballots cast for my opponant, the ability to know just how many more fake ballots I need?

Voting early and often gives you the best chance!

Indiana does voting right and always has. Picture id that must match physical address records on voter registration and they check everyone. Paper ballot that I feed into the tabulating machine and the vote total goes up to show vote was counted. State is triple red and semi solvent, Go Figure. Indianapolis, Bloomington and s Chicago liberal freeloaders drag us down but rest of the state is fairly conservative and my part/crowd in s Indiana is pretty redneck, just the way I like it.

I'll vote election day. Indiana has early voting but it's a trip to the courthouse and the only time I did it it was a hassle. I vote at a neighborhood school about 5 minutes from home and at 10-10:30am there is not much of a line and plenty of parking, typically walk right up. I know many poll workers so it's jovial.

In person election day for me.

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Originally posted by doublesharp:
Indiana does voting right and always has. Picture id that must match physical address records on voter registration and they check everyone. Paper ballot that I feed into the tabulating machine and the vote total goes up to show vote was counted. State is triple red and semi solvent, Go Figure. Indianapolis, Bloomington and s Chicago liberal freeloaders drag us down but rest of the state is fairly conservative and my part/crowd in s Indiana is pretty redneck, just the way I like it.

I'll vote election day. Indiana has early voting but it's a trip to the courthouse and the only time I did it it was a hassle. I vote at a neighborhood school about 5 minutes from home and at 10-10:30am there is not much of a line and plenty of parking, typically walk right up. I know many poll workers so it's jovial.

Correct, although here it's a five minute trip to the Town Hall for early voting, and that's what we will be doing for the second time in our lives. The last time we did it we only had a few people in front of us.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Silvermine:
If you live in a state that uses electronic voting machines, your vote has already been decided by those who own the companies who manufacture the machines.

Listen to me, gentlemen: STOP saying this defeatist shit here. S-T-O-P

I'm not going to listen to some of you piss and moan that we can't win. I don't want to be associated with people who give up before a battle is fought.

I will lock this thread and if the same kind of comments pop up in other threads, I'll start handing out disciplinary action.

Grow a pair. Stop thinking you're being so wise by saying that we can't win. No one wants to listen to this shit, least of all, me.

The closer we get to November 5th, the more militant I will become in response to such comments.

Anyone who has any questions, ask them now.

Nothing defeatist about it at all. It costs nothing to vote. I do it myself. Why not? But to think we can vote our way out of Marxism is unrealistic. They are winning. No matter who gets elected the Overton Window always moves to the left. We need to analyze our predicament and devise better strategies.

I think you fail to recognize what STOP means!!!

Hahahaha this will get good. Same dude who thinks voting is already decided, doesn’t recognize his fate in this thread is decided.

However you do it, whenever you do it….JUST GO VOTE. Trust me I realize how hopeless it can feel given where you might be but it doesn’t matter. VOTE!!! Your vote might end up mattering more then you can know.

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However you do it, whenever you do it….JUST GO VOTE

In addition, encourage others you know to do the same, then ask that they encourage others as well. Spread information on voting dates, locations, and ballot issues regularly as a constant reminder.

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Originally posted by Silvermine:
Nothing defeatist about it at all. It costs nothing to vote. I do it myself. Why not? But to think we can vote our way out of Marxism is unrealistic. They are winning. No matter who gets elected the Overton Window always moves to the left. We need to analyze our predicament and devise better strategies.

I didn't ask you for a trite lecture. I asked you to follow my directives. I'm not interested in this ridiculously overused, quasi-intellectual crap about not being able to "vote our way out of" whatever. If you think that's true, then don't vote, or maybe vote for Harris.

That's the end of it.

My wife and I have always voted in person, on election day. In 2020 we did that and when we got to the end of the line to turn in our ballots, the machine wouldn't take them and they set them aside, saying they'd run them through when the machine was fixed. In Arizona, you can track your ballot on-line and we were never able to confirm they were counted. In our recent primary, we voted early and I hand carried our ballots down to city hall and put them in the ballot box. We tracked them and did get confirmation they were counted. So, that's the way we'll do it hereafter.

I work for a college with 10 campuses. 6 of our campuses are voting locations.

All are in the same county so I can early vote at any of them as I travel often to all.

On Election Day I can vote at my home campus, which is where my office is and 0.5 miles from my house.

I love seeing long lines but there are seldom long lines at any of the locations.

This will be the 11th Presidential Election I have voted in.

I live in a county that:

Votes ~75% Republican.

In 2022, twice as many people voted early as they did on election day.

In 2020, 87% of the people voted early.

It's Texas, so we have to provide ID to vote and they have other cheating prevention measures in place.

I prefer early voting as:

I can choose which of the 10 locations to vote.

Election day I'm assigned where to vote which is a school so voting before work means battling school drop off BS.

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Originally posted by cas:

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Vote Early & Beat the Cheat

Theoretically, doesn't that just give you MORE time to cheat? Time to lose ballots cast for my opponant, the ability to know just how many more fake ballots I need?

Except, they're not supposed to open/count mail-in/early votes until after the polls close on election day.

In VA, at least in the population centers, we fill out paper ballots and then feed them into the counting machine. I think they do something similar with the early ones, feed the machine as soon as they arrive. The totals are not supposed to be available until close of voting. but who knows what kind of secret interface is available for these. You would think that there has to be some sort of administrative access in the case of the computer in the machine blue screening.

Since the Dums. pretty much have a lock on poll watchers/election judges, a strategy that they have been pursuing for decades, I suspect there may be some shenanigans in this regard .

Reps, on the other hand, have long been working on the assumption that most people will act honestly. Maybe this assumption needs to be discarded?

I generally vote on election day because the community center where I vote is a block from my house. However, if my schedule won't easily allow it I vote early. It's kinda fun because the early voting location is an ace hardware in Odessa.

Tommy

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
If you're playing poker with a cheat, do you just hope you can draw better cards or bluff better than the cheat? No. You insist on putting steps in place to keep the cheat from cheating.

In the last 3.5 years, there have been countless small steps, tiny victories in clamping down on voter fraud in various states, and they all add up. Before the 2020 election, most voters had no idea that fraud could exist in the U.S. Now, the majority now know it is part of the political lexicon, that not only is it a possibility, but Democrats, along with their lies and corruption, are the likely culprits. Unlike 2020, we are now expecting fraud and are on the lookout for it, no surprise today. And unlike past years under Ronna McDaniel, the RNC not only believes the election was stolen, but fighting fraud is the #1 issue.

IMO, Lara Trump has been preaching to Republicans to vote early to increase turnout and to make the votes count due to dirty tricks by the Dems on Election Day such as machine malfunctions, incorrect pens to mark the ballots, understaffed polls, etc. Republicans will be more aggressive, more proactive, more vigilant on Election Day.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
However you do it, whenever you do it….JUST GO VOTE. Trust me I realize how hopeless it can feel given where you might be but it doesn’t matter. VOTE!!! Your vote might end up mattering more than you can know.

Well, living in Kommiefornia, voting may be the equivalent of a Hail Mary pass, but I always do vote. I feel that if you don’t at least try, you’re worse than useless.

^^^^^^^^^^^

RFK jr is still on the CA ballot and I'll bet a decent amount of CA Democrats will still vote for him as a protest vote. Same with Green Party Jill Stein and and Libertarian Chase Oliver. And my gut feeling is that it will be Democrats who stay home this election. Republicans in CA really need to turnout on this one.

I love the idea of early voting, and have done it more than once, but for this one I'm voting in person on election day.

The reason is my distrust of the counting of early votes on actual election day. I'm suspicious there are opportunities for Democratically controlled operatives in the voting systems and procedures for early electronic votes to get redirected to the bit bucket, or worse, placed into the wrong bucket for the other candidate. I know it sounds crazy, but that's what the Democratic party seems to have become, maximizing corruption without shame to secure continued power.

So for this election cycle for POTUS, my working theory is there is probably LESS opportunity for vote counting fraud to occur with all the votes cast on November 5th, than for all those cast early BEFORE Nov 5th. So for the stated reasons that Republicans are promoting early voting, I would otherwise agree, but ONLY if the Democrats in charge of their party were HONEST people, which they are NOT, and vote counting fraud was more or less impossible with better procedures, chain of custody tracking and cross tabulations and checksums of various kinds, and the like. But I doubt all that stuff is really locked up that tight, esp. with all the local democratic corruption that pervades local and state news throughout the year.

These days I would not trust a Democrat as far as I could skip a stone, which with my limited range of shoulder rotation from old surgeries, isn't very far. As far as I can tell they are more or less a criminal organization.

As per Para's question about who would be in the know about these things, I'm sure there ARE people who could speak to these things with plenty of competence, but probably don't for obvious reasons, the least of which is that whistleblowers always lose without exception.

However you decide to vote, VOTE.

Regarding early voting, I'm following Trump's lead. Both Donald and Lara. They've asked me to vote early, I'm voting early.

I tend to assume they have better information than I do.