Going to visit son stationed out there

He wants me to bring him his Ruger 22.I am familiar with the TSA's rules on flying with a firearm, is there any other weird crap that happens at LAX when claiming it?

He also wants me to go with him to buy a Glock, not sure which one yet. I know it has to be 10 round mags or less.

He lives off base, E5, over 21 and his home of record is GA


Here is Google, anything else I need to know?


Proof of Residency: You can show proof of residency by providing your US Military ID and permanent change of station (PCS) orders indicating a permanent duty station in California. If you don't have your orders, a letter from your command on official letterhead confirming your permanent duty status in California can be used instead.
Identification: A valid, non-expired military ID is required.
Firearms Safety Certificate (FSC): As an active duty military member, you are exempt from needing an FSC.
Background Check (DROS): You will still need to undergo a background check through the California Department of Justice, which includes a 10-day waiting period.

I'm not an expert but it may be easier and cheaper to buy a glock where you are and do an interfamilial transfer (parent to child) rather than buy a glock in CA. You may have other options as well (model, not limited to Gen 3).

Again, not an expert but may be worth looking into.

Flying into LAX with the .22. shouldn’t be a problem.

He’ll need to meet residency requirements for CA gun purchase. Govt ID in CA, utilty bill in his name and CA address for example. Check out Ca DOJ for residency requirements.

Intrafamilial transfer should work if the particular Glock model is CA compliant. Again, he’ll have to fill out the form once he has possession of the Glock. Even then, he’ll have to demonstrate that he’s a CA resident. I did two intrafamilial transfers when my son gifted me a couple handguns. I still had to submit the forms here in Ca which I had to prove residency.

I think that’s your biggest hurdle is proving residency.

I thought transfers were not limited by the roster. I could be wrong or laws may have changed.

I wouldn't fly into California with a handgun in my luggage. Not worth the potential trouble.

Ship it to an FFL.

Since he is a GA resident, is already the ‘owner’ of the 22, basically he is just possessing his own gun. I hear CA has an ‘approved list’. I’m sure your checked, everything is already on that list, with magazine restrictions.

Once the hoops are lined up, I think he could just buy in CA, even if you were to pay.

The last option is to do all this the next time he is in GA.

I’ve been through vaguely similar, son is in the military in VA, still a WI resident.

It’s been several years, but when my son was in California for school I wanted to send him his sporting clays shotgun. After research at the time, I determined I could not send it without going through the legal transfer process in California. Several hundreds of dollars worth. Maybe it’s different if you’re personally carrying it in.

Fly in to Vegas, drive from there.

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Originally posted by konata88:
I thought transfers were not limited by the roster. I could be wrong or laws may have changed.

Transfers are not limited by roster. No mags over 10rds and no threaded barrels. I would buy a gen 5 Glock out of state if he prefers it to Gen 3.

I fly in and out of CA with a handgun a few times a year and never had a problem. I've also bought guns there when on active duty. Your OP pretty much covers it. He'll need a copy of his orders, his Military I.D., and a utility bill (water, gas, phone...) pay the fees and wait the 10 days.
Check out the CALGUNS.net forum for additional resources.

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Originally posted by Russ59:
Flying into LAX with the .22. shouldn’t be a problem.

He’ll need to meet residency requirements for CA gun purchase. Govt ID in CA, utilty bill in his name and CA address for example. Check out Ca DOJ for residency requirements.

Intrafamilial transfer should work if the particular Glock model is CA compliant. Again, he’ll have to fill out the form once he has possession of the Glock. Even then, he’ll have to demonstrate that he’s a CA resident. I did two intrafamilial transfers when my son gifted me a couple handguns. I still had to submit the forms here in Ca which I had to prove residency.

I think that’s your biggest hurdle is proving residency.

AD Orders negate the residency requirements.

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Originally posted by konata88:
I'm not an expert but it may be easier and cheaper to buy a glock where you are and do an interfamilial transfer (parent to child) rather than buy a glock in CA. You may have other options as well (model, not limited to Gen 3).

Again, not an expert but may be worth looking into.

Nope, IMO, it would be more of a pain in the ass and more expensive to transfer from parent to son a Glock from out of CA. The parent would need to transfer FFL to FFL because it is now an interstate transfer. Fees on both ends (CA transfer fees are ridiculously high, up to $100), plus a Handgun Safety Certificate on the son's end, and shipping the handgun. Now if both parent and son lived in CA, easy peasy cheap transfer, just fill out an OPLAW (Operations of Law) paperwork and $19. If son is not hell bent on getting a Gen 1,2, 4, or 5 Glock, buying a Gen 3 26, 19, 17, etc are on the state roster list, much easier and cheaper.

What if the parent visits CA? In person transfer?

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From what I understand, an intrafamilial transfer from different states is basically treated as two residents from two states, the difference is that with an accompanying letter, copy of parent ID, etc to designate a family transfer, the son can receive a handgun not listed on the roster. But it is still an interstate transfer according to federal law.

Legally, I cannot drive from Texas to CA with a Glock 43X and sell it to someone through a transfer at a gun shop because I am not an FFL. Same with interstate intrafamilial transfers.

And in regards to the Ruger 22, I don't know if it is a rifle or handgun, but a new resident bringing in to CA his own firearms need to submit a form and pay $19 to the CA DOJ. Remember, legally in CA all handguns and long guns are to be registered with the state. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991

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Originally posted by navyshooter:
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Check out the CALGUNS.net forum for additional resources.

Calguns should still be a decent place, but it’s been shit for like 2 or so years while it changed serves and such. If you can access it, it can be a great source of info for CA gun laws. If you don’t get in, you can try at a different time of day, seems to work better during the odd hours.

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Originally posted by oddball:
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From what I understand, an intrafamilial transfer from different states is basically treated as two residents from two states, the difference is that with an accompanying letter, copy of parent ID, etc to designate a family transfer, the son can receive a handgun not listed on the roster. But it is still an interstate transfer according to federal law.

Legally, I cannot drive from Texas to CA with a Glock 43X and sell it to someone through a transfer at a gun shop because I am not an FFL. Same with interstate intrafamilial transfers.

Believe this is right. You don’t even have to be in the state to gift or transfer an off roster gun to family (dad, mom, son, daughter, grandparent, grandchild… not aunts, uncles, cousins, etc). You can’t visit CA to sell them, but if establish residency and bring off roster with you, you can sell them to other non family CA residents. Cops and other roster exempt can also buy off roster and sell to CA residents ( though I believe certain exempt people lost the ability to sell it to other non exempt people).

My mom lives in Arizona, and she gifted me a Glock 43x a couple of years ago. She simply purchased the gun, in her name, at the shop in AZ, then sent it, along with a letter, stating that it was a gift for her son, and I believe a copy of her AZ id, to my gun store here in California.

You can do a intrafamilial transfer on an off roster pistol, just can't have a threaded barrel and mags have to be ten rounds or less.

I have heard of a CA FFL allowing a face to face transfer with an out of state parent but sounds like that is a very gray area.

So, you can ship it to his local FFL and he can complete the transfer. You will have to include a letter stating that the pistol is a "gift" from you and the pistol info.

Check out caguns.com. There are some posts over there with the same subject.

CALguns.com has some technical issues lately and can be spotty getting on.

The Ruger is one of those 22-45 Lites with a threaded barell, looking like a no go

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