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re-read Animal Farm ...
January 28, 2021, 03:15 PM
Sig209re-read Animal Farm ...
it's fascinating to see it coming true -- pretty much everything in the book is coming to fruition in real-time
how Orwell was able to predict the future so eloquently is incredible and the tale told in a succinct, allegorical format. he knew exactly what the communist MO was / is
stunning really. if you haven't read it -- you can read it in a day or two. it's eye opening.
1984 is next
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Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
January 28, 2021, 03:23 PM
lizardman_uAnimal Farm
1984
Fahrenheit 451
Atlas Shrugged
All need to be read and understood. All written decades before they started coming to fruition.
January 28, 2021, 03:25 PM
Ryanp2251984 scared the shit out of me. I read it before I knew what year it had been written and was shocked at his foresight.
January 28, 2021, 03:26 PM
joel9507Good reading list.
When you're done with 1984, maybe read (re-read?) this:
Not my picture, but that's one of my favorite mugs from the Obama years, getting dusted off now.
January 28, 2021, 03:27 PM
tigereye313"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
The best, succinct analysis of the current state of things.
January 28, 2021, 04:17 PM
CoolRich59Yep. I re-read Animal Farm and 1984 recently. But, I have read Atlas Shrugged twice and am not reading it again!

Another great read that is not as well known is
Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler.
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January 28, 2021, 04:46 PM
ScoutmasterI understand Orwell was pro socialist until he saw the reality of Stalinism, which was a primary motivator of Animal Farm.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 January 28, 2021, 06:03 PM
mr kablammoquote:
Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
I understand Orwell was pro socialist until he saw the reality of Stalinism, which was a primary motivator of Animal Farm.
He was with the commies in Spain and they were planning to execute him for not being commie enough.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre.
January 28, 2021, 06:55 PM
bdylanWe're living it daily, but chin up. Blue skies ahead.
January 28, 2021, 06:58 PM
john crusherThe World is Curved tells you more than you want to know and the Creature of Jekyll Island tells you everything about $.
January 28, 2021, 07:00 PM
Mars_AttacksFahrenheit 451 is here with the introduction of these "mirror" workout things that has the camera and interactive trainers.
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Here, poke at it with this stick.
January 28, 2021, 07:11 PM
egregoreCirca 1975-76 in high school, we were shown an animated film of Animal Farm, made in Britain in 1954. It had a more upbeat ending, with the animals, led by Benjamin the donkey, overthrowing the pigs, than the book.
January 28, 2021, 08:47 PM
low8optionBrave New Worlds needs to be added to the list as they used the media to shape political and social thought all the while revising history to reflect the current thinking.
Freedom comes from the will of man. In America it is guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment January 28, 2021, 08:52 PM
was0311quote:
Originally posted by low8option:
Brave New World
By far my favorite book, maybe tied with Catch-22.
January 28, 2021, 08:57 PM
archermanI haven't read that one since I was in high school, back in the 80's, and yes how much of it is true now is so so scary!
Archerman
January 28, 2021, 10:33 PM
Ripleyquote:
Originally posted by low8option:
Brave New World
I c&p'd this some time ago, seems like a good place to drop it in --
In the introduction to his book, Amusing Ourselves to Death, Neil Postman wrote:
"Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But, in Huxley's vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture ..."
Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. January 29, 2021, 05:52 AM
msfzoeSadly, we are ruled by Napoleon and Snowball.
January 29, 2021, 04:05 PM
ChuckWallOrwell was a Fabian and left the Society in disgust. The Fabians were the OG Globalists with the likes of HG Wells, his lover, Margaret Sanger, George Bernard Shaw. They included Leornard Woolfe, the architect of Wilson's League of Nations, and his wife, author Virginia Wolfe. Wolfe brought in John Maynard Keynes. Orwell was introduced to the Society by one of his professors, Aldous Huxley.
I believe Hilary Clinton belongs to the Fabians. They claim they are no longer involved in remaking the world to their heart's desire.
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