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General Tramploine Advice Wanted
July 16, 2020, 08:48 PM
AeteoclesGeneral Tramploine Advice Wanted
My best friend had one while we were growing up. It was tons of fun. Also a good place to lay out under the stars with your lady friends.
One day, we were just bouncing around as kids do. I hit the surface just a moment after someone else and I felt the compression inpact run all the way up my spine and into my jaw.
I stopped playing on the trampoline after that.
Also, if the other kids have a trampoline, why bother with your own? Why not get something else that's cool, but not going to cause an insurance risk? My friends built an indoor climbing wall in their bonus room. Another had a pool table. Some had pools or spas.
July 16, 2020, 08:48 PM
mr kablammoMy sister just bought a tramp for her kids recently. The kids used it for one weekend and complained that their legs hurt, their backs hurt, and they felt dizzy.
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July 16, 2020, 08:51 PM
ZSMICHAEL^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah. Today's kids are REALLY out of shape. The military continues to have trouble with kids not meeting the physical standards.
July 16, 2020, 08:57 PM
HK AgI wouldn’t do it, I wrenched my back a couple times on friends tramps.
Once after a double bounce I almost flew off I managed to land through the springs facing the center and then the back of my head met my heels, wrapping around the damn bar, springs all up in my junk!! How I didn’t break my back is a damn miracle.
HK Ag
July 16, 2020, 08:57 PM
VonFatmanour insurance company excludes them...my umbrella policy excludes them.
seems they don't want the risk.
stay safe and have fun.
July 16, 2020, 09:05 PM
RAMIUSMy brother and his wife were actually sued by the parents of a kid that broke his arm on their trampoline.
July 16, 2020, 09:23 PM
Cooksterquote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
I don't even need to see the article, but I call bullshit on the use of those stats. Anyone who tries to downplay the risk of injury of anything without citing injuries per hour of play (or other proxy for total use) is frankly full of shit.
It’s amazing that you were able to discredit the information presented in the article without even reading it, but the excerpt that I quoted was a summary of the some of the CDC and other data sources cited in the article.
As it’s an older article some of the links no longer work but some still do, so knock yourself out and feel free to reel in the bullshit with the organizations that collected and reported the accident / injury data!
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July 16, 2020, 09:31 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
I doubt that. For the most part administration keeps their nose out of this sort of thing which would be considered a clinical issue. Some doctors remain self employed. If the physician continues with this sort of demeanor it can be brought before the Chief of Staff.
You guys really think the hospital will question a physician who calls DYFS on parents if the same kid keeps coming back to the hospital with injuries that the parents every time blame on the same "excuse"?
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July 16, 2020, 09:34 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by imfrogman:
make sure you check with your insurance company, some exclude tramps
My neighbors HO policy doubled when he bought his. He got a new policy and took it down. Son wanted it out back up, so he did without contacting new insurance company. I told him he was being risky. He told me he didn't have one when he signed up, so he's good. I'm not sure that is how it works.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis July 16, 2020, 09:35 PM
parallelquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
My sister and brother-in-law bought a trampoline for my nephew when was probably 7 or 8. Could've even been a tad younger, I don't remember exactly. But he promptly broke his leg playing on it soon after they bought it. The doctor who casted his leg straight up told my sister if their son was brought back to the hospital again due to an injury on the trampoline, he would call DYFS (Division of Youth and Family Services in NJ) . My brother-in-law got rid of the trampoline the next day.
What a pompous Ass. Seems to me your Brother should have kept the trampoline and gotten rid of the asshole doctor.
A penny saved is a government oversight. July 16, 2020, 09:36 PM
ZSMICHAELRE BH.
My response has to do with how things are done in most hospitals. Granted many docs are EMPLOYED my the hospital, but the administration is obssessed with the bottom line and generally stays away from these issue.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding. I was replying to the doc who had the shitty attitude. If he felt that it needed to be reported he should do it, not make stupid threats. That is a clinical decision.
July 16, 2020, 09:44 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
RE BH.
My response has to do with how things are done in most hospitals. Granted many docs are EMPLOYED my the hospital, but the administration is obssessed with the bottom line and generally stays away from these issue.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding. I was replying to the doc who had the shitty attitude. If he felt that it needed to be reported he should do it, not make stupid threats. That is a clinical decision.
No, I agree with you. It was an honest question. It is new Jersey after all. And my sister and brother-in-law were very young parents at the time, just in their early twenties, so perhaps the doc was also being overly judgemental. Anyone who has dealt with the NJ Division of Youth and Family Services knows that once they get involved, life can be hell. They are (or at least were; this was over 20 years ago) like the Gestapo.
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July 16, 2020, 09:53 PM
ZSMICHAELThanks Alan. I have a friend whose pediatrician felt her preschooler was not gaining weight and that she was starving him. The pediatrician called DHS same as CPS and they placed her child in foster care. Luckily she was able to get a high powered attorney to take her case pro bono. The foster mother was moving towards adoption with the help of DHS. Her son was returned to her and she wisely left the state. That was a two year nightmare.
July 17, 2020, 06:39 AM
sourdough44We had two while our kids were growing up, also had one when I was a kid. I don’t recall any injury over those years, yes the potential is there. The neighbor girl broke a tooth or two on their trampoline.
Our kids did like to just lay on it at times. The biggest danger is when two or more are jumping at the same time. Most of the time they aren’t jumping all out, high.
My tips would be supervision along with rules. If needed, take 1/3 of the springs off if away for awhile. Maybe we were just lucky with no injuries.
July 17, 2020, 06:54 AM
rbert0005My neck is still screwed up 60 years later from an injury on a trampoline.
Pinched nerve. Numbness, tingles, aches, you name it.
Bob
I am no expert, but think I am sometimes.
July 17, 2020, 02:52 PM
Aeteoclesquote:
Originally posted by Cookster:
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
I don't even need to see the article, but I call bullshit on the use of those stats. Anyone who tries to downplay the risk of injury of anything without citing injuries per hour of play (or other proxy for total use) is frankly full of shit.
It’s amazing that you were able to discredit the information presented in the article without even reading it, but the excerpt that I quoted was a summary of the some of the CDC and other data sources cited in the article.
As it’s an older article some of the links no longer work but some still do, so knock yourself out and feel free to reel in the bullshit with the organizations that collected and reported the accident / injury data!
I'm not discrediting those numbers or the agencies that collected the data. But, I can already tell by how the numbers are presented in that summary that they are misleading and misinterpreted to support the authors viewpoint.
The number of injuries for each activity have not been adjusted for the popularity of each activity. Presenting the data to show that there are fewer trampoline injuries than basketball injuries PER YEAR, instead of presenting the data of injuries per HOUR OF PLAY is highly misleading.
I glanced at the link, as per your suggestion, and I'm doubling down. The USE of those numbers is BS. The numbers themselves may be correct, but they don't paint the picture the author is trying to paint.
Look at it this way, who is the safer driver? Al has gotten in 1 accident in 1 year after driving 5000 miles. Bob, in the same 1 year period, has gotten into 5 accidents, but drives 50,000 miles a year. Bob has 5 times more accidents, but he's actually the safer driver because he gets in half as many accidents per mile as Al.
The same can be said of trampolines. Fewer kids get injures per year (because fewer kids play on trampolines), but kids get injures way more frequently. The frequency of injuries is more relevant than the gross number. Anyone who presents the data without addressing frequency, is, like I said before, full of shit.