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April 10, 2018, 01:15 PM
Excam_ManI saved a house from fire
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I am not an electrician, but I would be leary of that. If they are going to use a space heater, which Skins has pointed out is a really bad idea, isn't it even more of a safety hazard to use it on a circuit like that, without a ground pin in the plug?
Not having a ground isn't really an issue, but if the outlet isn't new enough to have a ground, I sure wouldn't trust the old wiring!
April 10, 2018, 01:39 PM
clubleaf206quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:
What are the odds that they did not have a working smoke detector?
I called and asked, my friend said yes, so I replied "Would you check while I have you on the phone?" Pushed the test button and I had them do a test with something actually smoking. It works. Then I checked mine, it works, too.
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April 10, 2018, 01:41 PM
clubleaf206quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Not having a ground isn't really an issue, but if the outlet isn't new enough to have a ground, I sure wouldn't trust the old wiring!
The new outlet has a ground, which I connected.
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April 10, 2018, 01:45 PM
clubleaf206And, thanks for the attaboys, guys. It never hurts to help.
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April 10, 2018, 01:51 PM
sasquatch28quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Not having a ground isn't really an issue, but if the outlet isn't new enough to have a ground, I sure wouldn't trust the old wiring!
The new outlet has a ground, which I connected.
I'm not an electrician, but do you mean that there was grounded wire going to an outlet box that had an ungrounded outlet? Is the rest of the wiring ungrounded? I only ask because I once had a "two wire" ungrounded house. In order to add a three prong outlet, it had to be a gfci.
April 10, 2018, 01:54 PM
sjpquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
Mothers, brothers and others, I present Exhibit 'B'.
I am not an electrician, but I would be leary of that. If they are going to use a space heater, which Skins has pointed out is a really bad idea, isn't it even more of a safety hazard to use it on a circuit like that, without a ground pin in the plug?
The heater they were using didn't have a ground from the factory, as seen in the picture it only has 2 wires so I don't know exactly why they were using the adapter anyway...
April 10, 2018, 03:29 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by sjp:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
Mothers, brothers and others, I present Exhibit 'B'.
I am not an electrician, but I would be leary of that. If they are going to use a space heater, which Skins has pointed out is a really bad idea, isn't it even more of a safety hazard to use it on a circuit like that, without a ground pin in the plug?
The heater they were using didn't have a ground from the factory, as seen in the picture it only has 2 wires so I don't know exactly why they were using the adapter anyway...
That plug in the picture is not the original plug for that space heater. It's a
$2 replacement. I wouldn't trust that with anything but a lamp. I do wonder what happened to the original plug end? Melted before, then replaced?
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis April 10, 2018, 04:46 PM
bald1Holy crap batman! Talk about dodging a large caliber bullet!
Well done Club! Well done!
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April 10, 2018, 07:56 PM
StramboGood job! It’s scary how fast a house fire can become fully involved. Had that fire taken, we’re talking about a $200k insurance claim, never mind the potential loss of pets, life, irreplaceable sentimental items.
Also, don’t become so obsessed with drones and RC models you have their LiPo batteries charging all over the house. That was my latest one.
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https://preparefit.ck.page April 10, 2018, 08:06 PM
selogicDoes that outlet say " 10A " ? If so , there's your problem . Most space heaters exceed that on the HIGH setting . And the Gnd adapter was another failure point .
April 10, 2018, 08:10 PM
deepoceanquote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
And, thanks for the attaboys, guys. It never hurts to help.
God bless you for helping them. You really did well.
April 11, 2018, 07:10 PM
clubleaf206quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
Mothers, brothers and others, I present Exhibit 'B'.
I also had to splice in wires on one side, the heat had cooked off the insulation.
I think everyone involved is breathing a sigh of relief.
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April 11, 2018, 07:27 PM
clubleaf206quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
Mothers, brothers and others, I present Exhibit 'B'.
I also had to splice in wires on one side, the heat had cooked off the insulation.
I think everyone involved is breathing a sigh of relief.
Oops, didn’t mean to bump this, I was just fixing the picture urls.
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April 11, 2018, 07:30 PM
Skins2881Picture illustrates another problem with use of space heaters in older homes. Outlet is rated for 10A, most space heaters are 1500W (12.5A). Not only that the outlet was rated for 10A when it was new, not after 50+ years of use.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis April 11, 2018, 07:57 PM
EdmondWow!
And I thought my mother in law leaving the stove top on to heat the house was bad. Fortunately she doesn't live in that old house anymore.
She would not only use the stove top for heat but also used space heaters like this.
House was built in the late 40's/early 50's.
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April 11, 2018, 08:05 PM
nhtagmembernice job
thats a nasty looking plug
any other damage?
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April 11, 2018, 08:33 PM
clubleaf206Thankfully, no. I don’t know just how much borrowed time there was left, though. And at least it would be shut off when no one was there.
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April 11, 2018, 08:37 PM
clubleaf206quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
Wow!
And I thought my mother in law leaving the stove top on to heat the house was bad. Fortunately she doesn't live in that old house anymore.
She would not only use the stove top for heat but also used space heaters like this.
House was built in the late 40's/early 50's.
When I was a kid the furnace went belly up. In the dead of Winter. Until it could be fixed we were forced to use the oven, with the door open to try to keep the house warm. Fortunately that was only two or three days, if I recall correctly.
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April 11, 2018, 08:57 PM
slosigquote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by clubleaf206:
Mothers, brothers and others, I present Exhibit 'B'.
I am not an electrician, but I would be leary of that. If they are going to use a space heater, which Skins has pointed out is a really bad idea, isn't it even more of a safety hazard to use it on a circuit like that, without a ground pin in the plug?
Heck, I’d prefer to only use them on 20 amp (or higher) rated circuits. If you are pulling a lot of current for the circuit you are potentially heating up everything back to the breaker box.