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Why can't Republicans stand together Vis a vis votes for SOTH

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January 06, 2023, 12:07 PM
911Boss
Why can't Republicans stand together Vis a vis votes for SOTH
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Hern!

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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


January 06, 2023, 12:13 PM
nhracecraft
^^^THAT Right there is funny! Big Grin Did that actually happen? Razz And if so, who get the credit for that maneuver? Cool


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January 06, 2023, 12:15 PM
SIGnified
Yup

(I gotta get my ass to work lol)





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January 06, 2023, 12:19 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by ugeesta:
Makes me think the Dems just may throw a couple votes to McCarthy just to get this showboating over.

Your "showboating" is my "doing exactly what we hired them to do". No more business as usual. This ship needs to be righted and they are in the perfect position to get it started.

Unfortunately, my rep is in the McCarthy camp. I knew Zinke was a swamp critter when I voted for him but he was better than the commie bitch he was running against. Our other rep up here is still standing strong though.

And I really like that Round 12 girl. Wow. She's a looker. Big Grin


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January 06, 2023, 12:20 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^THAT Right there is funny! Big Grin Did that actually happen? Razz And if so, who get the credit for that maneuver? Cool

Rosendale. MT.


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January 06, 2023, 12:20 PM
PASig



January 06, 2023, 12:23 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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January 06, 2023, 12:24 PM
911Boss
14 of the hold outs flipped…

Not enough to give it to him this time but moving that direction.


Fix may be in. Hope they got iron-clad guarantee for selling out…






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


January 06, 2023, 12:29 PM
Sig2340
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
14 of the hold outs flipped…

Not enough to give it to home this time but moving that direction.


Fix may be in. Hope they got iron-clad guarantee for selling out…


Maybe principles will prevail.

Yeah, I know, it’s Congress, so ethics and morality will likely not prevail, I just want to exceed the over of 19 votes.





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January 06, 2023, 12:37 PM
stoic-one
Selling out? Eh...
The Club for Growth got involved late in this process, and is brokering some of this. They have been adamantly anti-KM, think about that. I don't believe half of what I'm hearing from either side of this, but if anyone here is suddenly silly enough to believe what they're hearing in the press, have at it.

My take is that there are probably 4 that will never vote FOR KM, partially because he hurt them in their primaries. We'll see.


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January 06, 2023, 12:45 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Enlarge please hard to see


I had to resize that SOB like 4 times

Original file size must have been Uge


January 06, 2023, 12:57 PM
NavyGuy
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
Don't you think this could/should have been worked out once the Nov vote was over. Do you think Nancy ever didn't know how each senator would vote on something. If she didn't have to votes to pass something, she'd work that out until enough votes where forthcoming. I know SOTH is somewhat different than a straight forward bill but it's the same principle. McCarthy should of known about these hold outs and handled it behind closed doors rather than turning into a spectacle that the Dems will use as talking points against the GOP



McCarthy did meet with this group prior,

They offered up some things they wanted and he flat out told them no, go pound sand.

McCarthy felt he had SOTH locked up, he even moved his stuff into the speakers offices.

Now he's paying for it, the problem isn't the 20+ or so people who wanted change, its the 180+ RINO's who keep voting for him, making it 12 consecutive votes of zero chance, they know it's zero, and the vote should be held until either McCarthy stops his bid or they negotiate a solution.

No doubt that if they put up anyone but McCarthy, someone who will work with everyone on the R side then that person would get the job.

Since he's unwilling to accept changes and move into a more conservative position then he's not the person we need, just because it's his turn doesn't mean he's the right guy....


If McCarty met with this group and was told no, we won't vote for you why the hell did he start moving in when he knew (or should have known) he didn't have the votes to get elected? There's more things under the surface of this deal. I'm no McCarthy fan and would love to some someone else in that position. My point is they had three months to hammer this out and they didn't and now it looks ugly.



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January 06, 2023, 01:04 PM
SIGnified
I think KM will eventually get this seat. However, he’s certainly been a sent a message that it won’t be business as usual.

If they can stop this vote, they can stop a bunch of others.

James Comer Kentucky moving to the 13th ballot.





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January 06, 2023, 01:11 PM
chellim1
quote:
I think KM will eventually get this seat. However, he’s certainly been a sent a message that it won’t be business as usual.

Yep. And that's progress.

This deal would not have been possible had the Freedom Caucus coalition listened to the “Conservative Inc” brands in the television and media space, who have spent the entire week insulting and threatening individuals and groups (describing them as “terrorists” and “insurrectionists”) that opposed McCarthy’s hasty accession to the House throne.

Liberty Scores of anti-McCarthy GOP rebels:
Andy Biggs 100
Dan Bishop 100
Lauren Boebert 100
M Cloud 91
A Clyde 91
Byron Donalds 100
Matt Gaetz 84
Bob Good 100
Paul Gosar 100
A Harris 84
Mary Miller 95
R Norman 92
S Perry 86
Matt Rosendale 100
Chip Roy 100

McCarthy has a 54(F)



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January 06, 2023, 01:16 PM
SIGnified
Round 13 …








"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
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January 06, 2023, 01:20 PM
parabellum
I imagine McCarthy is frustrated and embarrassed with all of this, and I hope he is.

I am not frustrated by this fiasco, nor am I embarrassed by it, and I'll say once again that if the leftists understood the significance of this event, they would not be laughing. Since they are so blinded by their hatred of this nation and its Constitution, I encourage them to keep yukking it up until the chickens come home to roost.


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January 06, 2023, 02:00 PM
SIG4EVA
I applaud those that are holding out to restore the rules before Pelosi. Held their asses accountable. Just think about the wasted years Trump had because of RINO's. This is promising even if he eventually wins the speakership.


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January 06, 2023, 02:25 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
Don't you think this could/should have been worked out once the Nov vote was over. Do you think Nancy ever didn't know how each senator would vote on something. If she didn't have to votes to pass something, she'd work that out until enough votes where forthcoming. I know SOTH is somewhat different than a straight forward bill but it's the same principle. McCarthy should of known about these hold outs and handled it behind closed doors rather than turning into a spectacle that the Dems will use as talking points against the GOP



McCarthy did meet with this group prior,

They offered up some things they wanted and he flat out told them no, go pound sand.

McCarthy felt he had SOTH locked up, he even moved his stuff into the speakers offices.

Now he's paying for it, the problem isn't the 20+ or so people who wanted change, its the 180+ RINO's who keep voting for him, making it 12 consecutive votes of zero chance, they know it's zero, and the vote should be held until either McCarthy stops his bid or they negotiate a solution.

No doubt that if they put up anyone but McCarthy, someone who will work with everyone on the R side then that person would get the job.

Since he's unwilling to accept changes and move into a more conservative position then he's not the person we need, just because it's his turn doesn't mean he's the right guy....


If McCarty met with this group and was told no, we won't vote for you why the hell did he start moving in when he knew (or should have known) he didn't have the votes to get elected? There's more things under the surface of this deal. I'm no McCarthy fan and would love to some someone else in that position. My point is they had three months to hammer this out and they didn't and now it looks ugly.


Because he assumed that they were bluffing, or would quickly knuckle under pressure after a few failed votes.
January 06, 2023, 02:36 PM
Patriot
If I was one of the holdouts, Id add another demand with each failed vote.

Keep that list of conservative demands growing...each more painful....each escalating the ease with which they could remove his ass.


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January 06, 2023, 02:41 PM
2BobTanner
Won't be surprised if a backroom deal isn't struck to flip enough Dems to drag him across the finish line, thus negating the “Insurgents”.

Deal would have Dems' political agenda pushed through; no examination of Hunter B's laptop; and some favorable committee assignments.

Proving once again that the Stupid Party can't govern without the Evil Party telling them how high to jump.


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